|
||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
11 Aug 2013, 07:47 (Ref:3288229) | #1 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
Britcar
What's happening to the Britcar championship they appear to be really struggling with numbers? I guess it's a money thing again it is a real pity I love doing their meetings, but at the moment I'm afraid with the grids they are getting it hardly seams worth it...
|
|
|
11 Aug 2013, 17:16 (Ref:3288356) | #2 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,449
|
I think it is a general lack of money, combined with a resurgence in the popularity of British GT and GT Cup.
|
||
|
11 Aug 2013, 17:28 (Ref:3288362) | #3 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
I guess one championships gain is another ones loss, it's a pity as JT puts on a good package.
|
|
|
11 Aug 2013, 19:58 (Ref:3288450) | #4 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,909
|
Sorry to say, but outside of silverstone it's always been complete rubbish!
3 times I've volunteered for events that have promised over 40 cars and only 10 or so have turned up....put the championship down and let the remaining teams join gt cup or british gt |
||
|
11 Aug 2013, 20:28 (Ref:3288479) | #5 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,040
|
The trouble is that many of the teams don't actually have cars that are eligible for British GT. If you want to do relatively high end endurance racing but don't have homologatedd cars where else do you race in the UK? Maybe time to consolidate and run bother Britcar grids as a single combined 90min race on some one else's package than trying to run full meetings?
|
||
__________________
Born in the Midlands, made in the Royal Navy |
12 Aug 2013, 09:17 (Ref:3288697) | #6 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
They used to run the GT's and produtions together maybe that is the way to go, as you say Andy some of the cars wouldnt fit in elsewhere.
|
|
|
12 Aug 2013, 17:48 (Ref:3288904) | #7 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,449
|
The problem is that the British Endurance Championship runs under a National A permit, whilst the Productions run under a National B one. The MSA don't allow grids to be merged, when the series are of different levels (I can see some logic behind this as it avoids grids with overly large speed and experience differentials). The 24hrs was exempt from this as it never formed part of a championship.
|
||
|
12 Aug 2013, 18:35 (Ref:3288928) | #8 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
Quote:
|
||
|
12 Aug 2013, 20:06 (Ref:3288972) | #9 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,360
|
The first **itcar meeting at Oulton Park was the worst day's "racing" I've ever had to endure. Apparently the second one was just as bad - I was one of many marshals who vowed "never again" after the first one.
|
||
__________________
Doing an important job doesn't make you an important person. |
12 Aug 2013, 20:22 (Ref:3288980) | #10 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,449
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
13 Aug 2013, 21:01 (Ref:3289438) | #11 | |
Racer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 154
|
I'm signed up to marshal the event that has taken the place of the 24hr in September. Really loved the 24hr and giving the revised weekend a go in the hope it will be similar grids and atmosphere. Sounds like that might not be the case
|
|
|
13 Aug 2013, 22:02 (Ref:3289458) | #12 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,909
|
|||
|
13 Aug 2013, 22:50 (Ref:3289470) | #13 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,449
|
|||
|
14 Aug 2013, 08:00 (Ref:3289564) | #14 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,360
|
|||
__________________
Doing an important job doesn't make you an important person. |
14 Aug 2013, 08:04 (Ref:3289565) | #15 | ||
Pie On 'ere
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,650
|
|||
__________________
Why is there no such thing as cat-flavored dog food? |
14 Aug 2013, 08:07 (Ref:3289566) | #16 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,449
|
Actual cars - although as I said in my previous post, the entry lists in the early days of Britcar did lack a certain level of accuracy.
|
||
|
14 Aug 2013, 08:18 (Ref:3289576) | #17 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 673
|
Still better than Speed, which never seems to get into double figures.
|
||
__________________
Paul Norris |
14 Aug 2013, 13:39 (Ref:3289713) | #18 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
Well the meeting this weekend at Snetterton now consists of 1 x 3hr open test session 1 x qualifying and 1 x race for the production class.. Not looking to good for the future.
|
|
|
14 Aug 2013, 18:16 (Ref:3289815) | #19 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 676
|
Too many clubs running rubbish like this. I was going to go to this but have pulled out. Not wasting my fuel money on it. Its about time(again) that things like this that cant produce a quality grid numbers wise running long races should be scrapped. This does nothing in my opinion for motorsports.
There does appear this year from what I have seen clubs still running things that have had poor grids for the last couple of years and still producing poor grids this year. Money is tight no argument their so perhaps its time to re evaluate how much motorsports there is and do something to stop producing these poor grids. I have been to a number of meetings where there is 1 or 2 good grids then a lot of poor grids on 10 or less cars having 2 or 3 races in the weekend. Also far to many 2 day meetings now adding to the costs but I understand why clubs are doing this. Things do need to change though. |
||
__________________
Heartstart courses are for everyone to learn to save a life. |
14 Aug 2013, 18:55 (Ref:3289825) | #20 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,909
|
|||
|
14 Aug 2013, 20:04 (Ref:3289861) | #21 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 359
|
I think we should have a general rule that no race can last longer than 5 minutes x the number of cars that start. If you can only muster 6 cars then a 30 minute race is your lot .
After all it's not supposed to be the marshals and spectators endurance they're testing is it ? OTOH I'm not a big fan of endurance racing anyway, it's not just Britcar. Steve |
||
|
14 Aug 2013, 20:20 (Ref:3289870) | #22 | |
Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 234
|
The old argument, we have too much Motorsport. Too many championships for to few competitors, the MSA needs to look at this..
|
|
|
15 Aug 2013, 12:12 (Ref:3290160) | #23 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 570
|
|||
__________________
"When you're racing it's life. Anything before or after is just waiting." Steve McQueen "Growing old is compulsory - growing up is optional." Bob Monkhouse OBE |
15 Aug 2013, 13:30 (Ref:3290179) | #24 | ||
Pie On 'ere
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,650
|
|||
__________________
Why is there no such thing as cat-flavored dog food? |
20 Aug 2013, 14:23 (Ref:3292035) | #25 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 731
|
http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/home/?p...b_source=pubv1 see link for latest Britcar 1000k race news
|
||
__________________
Examining Specialist, Experienced marshal,Flag marshal. |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Britcar | DanJR1 | Sportscar & GT Racing | 4 | 19 Nov 2007 21:32 |
Britcar | acf8181 | National & Club Racing | 15 | 29 Jan 2005 22:13 |
Britcar | james tucker | National & Club Racing | 433 | 15 Jun 2004 14:32 |
Britcar | simon_blay | National & Club Racing | 14 | 20 Sep 2003 06:54 |