|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
25 Sep 2016, 03:15 (Ref:3674875) | #1 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,434
|
2016 Macau GT Cup - FIA GT World Cup
Second Edition of GT World Cup continue to take place in Macau which has better line up than inaugural edition : Maximum entry of manufacturers deducted from 3 to 2 and manufacturer just based on final result of Main Race which take place on Sunday. Official tyre and fuel supplier to be confirmed (possible revealed during next WMSC on Wednesday ) and Provisional Entry List will published on 6th October 2016 during press conference of 63rd Macau GP .Audi ,Benz ,BMW ,Lamborghini and Porsche are expected to entered as manufacturers.
Audi Audi Sport Team WRT-Edoardo Mortara Audi Sport Team WRT-Laurens Vanthoor Phoneix Racing (Asia) - Marchy Lee Phoneix Racing (Asia) - Shaun Thong (?) Absolute Racing - Franky Cheng Benz Mercedes AMG Driving Academy - Maro Engel Mercedes AMG Driving Academy - Renger Van de Zende BMW ROWE Racing - Slef Dusseldorp?? ROWE Racing - Tom Blomqvist ?? Lamborghini Grasser Racing Team - ?? Grasser Racing Team - ?? FFF Racing by ACM - Edoardo Liberati ? FFF Racing by ACM - Andrea Amici ? Porsche Manthey Racing - Kevin Estre ? Manthey Racing - Earl Bamber ? Craft Bamboo Racing - Richard Lyons Craft Bamboo Racing - Darryl O'Young Others non manufacturers registered Entries: Adderly Fong - Bentley Absoulte Racing (Bentley Continental GT3) Keita Sawa - Bentley Absoulte Racing (Bentley Continental GT3) Vutthikorn Inthraphuvasak - Bentley Absoulte Racing (Bentley Continental GT3) Pasin Lathouras - AF Corse (Ferrari 488 GT3) John Shen - Modena Motorsport (Porscher 911 GT3R) Sun Zheng - Spirit Z Racing (Nissan GT-R GT3) |
||
|
25 Sep 2016, 10:58 (Ref:3674892) | #2 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 821
|
What are dates in November please?
|
||
|
18 Nov 2016, 14:05 (Ref:3689067) | #3 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,042
|
Ok then, this snuck under the radar somewhat, clearly the 'World Cup' tag isn't working as planned.
Another great grid, great circuit... Anyone else intending to watch a yellow flag fest qualifying race later? |
||
__________________
Eat Sportscars Sleep Sportscars Drink Gulf |
19 Nov 2016, 02:18 (Ref:3689176) | #4 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 761
|
|||
__________________
what get us in trouble is not what we don't know it's what we know for sure that just ain't so... |
19 Nov 2016, 04:48 (Ref:3689184) | #5 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,857
|
That was painful viewing.
|
||
|
19 Nov 2016, 04:49 (Ref:3689185) | #6 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,042
|
It usually is, but always worth watching for the few clean laps, it's just such a bonkers concept for an event.
|
||
__________________
Eat Sportscars Sleep Sportscars Drink Gulf |
19 Nov 2016, 08:34 (Ref:3689205) | #7 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,857
|
I was speaking more in terms of the TV direction and commentary more than the on track action. Will be interesting if one of the Porsches can get around Vanthoor tomorrow because the Porsche seems faster than the Audi on the straights but slower in the handling sections of the track.
|
||
|
19 Nov 2016, 23:08 (Ref:3689611) | #8 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,002
|
2016 Macau GT Cup - FIA GT World Cup
Every year I'm excited by the timing, and the idea of this race.
Every year I watch the qualy race back and think, or yeh, they just convoy round for 12 laps, and like 4 of them are actually full speed Just wish there was a couple of overtaking opportunities on the track Edit: I'm also sitting here scrolling through an Instagram feed full of fantastic pictures of GT3 cars ripping through the streets of Macau. Shame the video doesn't have the same effect for some reason |
|
|
19 Nov 2016, 23:34 (Ref:3689617) | #9 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,042
|
I'm similar, but I could happily watch the onboards from full speed laps all day, it's a crazy course. Last year, Mortara v van der Zange was a lot of fun IIRC.
I can see the race today being interesting, but if Vanthoor stays in front in lap 1 I would think restarts will be the only way for the Porsches to pass; the Audi just pulls out too much over the mountain. |
||
__________________
Eat Sportscars Sleep Sportscars Drink Gulf |
20 Nov 2016, 06:21 (Ref:3689640) | #10 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,857
|
Absolutely horrific accident for Vanthoor, never seen a GT3 car take off like that, glad hes ok.
|
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 06:33 (Ref:3689643) | #11 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 612
|
So, Vanthoor won? Or Estre? I presume it will be Vanthoor, despite the big crash, due to countback.
|
|
|
20 Nov 2016, 06:39 (Ref:3689645) | #12 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,857
|
I think Estre has won it because the car that caused the red flag is usually excluded and Bamber has a 5 second penalty, but then again there is usually a 1 lap count back so who knows
Edit: Confirmed that Vanthoor has won, Estre second and Engel 3rd. Farce of a concept imo. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 06:46 (Ref:3689647) | #13 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 612
|
I agree, there's no way a car that crashed out and caused a race ending red flag should be the winner of the race.
|
|
|
20 Nov 2016, 06:53 (Ref:3689648) | #14 | ||
Racer
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 283
|
Wow, how many racing laps were done across the GT and both TCR races today?
Agree that the result looks really bad, you can see the cringe on the faces of everyone on that podium. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 06:56 (Ref:3689649) | #15 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 612
|
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 07:29 (Ref:3689651) | #16 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,208
|
Typical Macau, the track is wonderful but the racing usually is very poor. Any incident is a fcy or a red flag.
And after saying this I would like to see the NASCAR trucks there XD |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 10:01 (Ref:3689671) | #17 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 684
|
Every year in November one Sunday I get out of bed early and trudge off to Sheung Wan to catch the ferry to Macau. Then I will take my seat in the Lisboa stand and sit through a bunch of amateurs who are barely better than HK taxi drivers constantly causing yellow or red flags, or in today's case, continuing flat out for another lap after the chequered flag.
Amateurs clearly can't handle this track, and Laurens' accident was unfortunate. I won't be back soon. People who complain about the organisation of V8SC events should take a trip to Macau and they would be indefinitely grateful for what they have. I mean today we had water pouring off the top of the Lisboa grandstand which delayed running. Ridiculous. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 12:53 (Ref:3689706) | #18 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,042
|
Glad to see Vanthoor is ok, that's the main thing, but what the ****? I understand they've followed the letter of their rules, but come on...?
Especially as it was a great move by the Porsche to overtake in the first place. |
||
__________________
Eat Sportscars Sleep Sportscars Drink Gulf |
20 Nov 2016, 15:14 (Ref:3689743) | #19 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 6,539
|
While I agree in principle (it is a bit miffing that the driver who caused the race-ending incident was declared the winner), what else could be done? It's not as if the finishing order could have been taken just after Bamber's pass but just before Vanthoor's accident.
|
||
__________________
BoP is democracy for racing. |
20 Nov 2016, 15:50 (Ref:3689748) | #20 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 11,129
|
Quote:
Devils advocate - anyone who gets overtaken for the lead can just crash on the same lap and be declared the winner. We say it won't happen, but we said nobody would cause safety cars on purpose, and we've seen that in F1 and NASCAR. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 18:31 (Ref:3689779) | #21 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,137
|
Solution? Scrap 1 lap of the car causing the red flag.
Isn't that similar to what Indycar (and others?) does in practice/qualifying? Red flag -> fastest time deleted. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 18:51 (Ref:3689784) | #22 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 11,898
|
What a joke race, and that has to be the most ridiculous result, the car that was in first place actually classified as (last or close to it as all cars pretty much crossed start line in a row, the car that crashed due to driver error classified as winner and the fans see next to no racing. i feel really sorry for the teams and fans that spent large sums of money for that debacle,
|
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 21:18 (Ref:3689825) | #23 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 8,611
|
I didn't catch either race. Does anyone know where I can find a replay? Intrigued to know what happened to Aussie Ricky Capo in his Z4 GT3
|
||
__________________
Somebody asked if the McLaren F1 was going to be like the Ferrari F40, Gordon Murray replied, "I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." |
20 Nov 2016, 21:31 (Ref:3689826) | #24 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 11,129
|
Quote:
Capo crashed, causing one of the Safety Cars. There was only 2 green flag laps, so the full race isn't worth watching. |
||
|
20 Nov 2016, 22:32 (Ref:3689837) | #25 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 684
|
|||
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FIA GT World Cup - Macau GT Cup | Monkey Head | Sportscar & GT Racing | 36 | 9 Dec 2015 03:41 |
59th Macau Grand Prix - FIA F3 Intercontinental Cup | Monkey Head | National & International Single Seaters | 159 | 24 Nov 2012 23:14 |
2010 FIA F3 Intercontinental Cup - 57th Macau Grandprix + Korean SP | Monkey Head | National & International Single Seaters | 80 | 10 Dec 2010 19:07 |
FIA F3 Intercontinental Cup - 56th Macau GP | Monkey Head | National & International Single Seaters | 245 | 29 Nov 2009 20:47 |
FIA F3 Intercontinental Cup - Macau : 26th Edtion,2008 | Monkey Head | National & International Single Seaters | 172 | 23 Nov 2008 12:01 |