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Old 14 Nov 2009, 14:49 (Ref:2581892)   #1
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F3 Euro Series Off Season Discussions for 2010

After the 2009 season and great field, it seems that F3 Euro Series is facing a lot of trouble in view of 2010:
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- Carlin & Manor (?) pulling out (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80138 - http://www.italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=25534&cat=7)
- No other Team but ART winning titles...

What a shame if F3 ES quality drops looking at how many drivers it has brought to F1 (Lewis Hamilton, Adrian Sutil, Robert Kubica, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Hulkenberg, ......

Any ideas of a calendar? Haven't seen anything about DTM either...
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Old 14 Nov 2009, 20:38 (Ref:2582028)   #2
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In 2003 Prema won the championship with Briscoe , but apart from this , that is F3ART Series.

Bad times for F3 Euroseries.
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Old 14 Nov 2009, 21:29 (Ref:2582059)   #3
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Formula ART? Better be careful about abbreviating that one...
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Old 19 Nov 2009, 14:02 (Ref:2585092)   #4
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Formula ART? Better be careful about abbreviating that one...
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After the 2009 season and great field, it seems that F3 Euro Series is facing a lot of trouble in view of 2010:
- Carlin & Manor (?) pulling out
Read in Autosport today that Manor will be concentrating on its GP3 project! Thats definitaly not good for EF3.
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Old 19 Nov 2009, 22:05 (Ref:2585377)   #6
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If both Manor and Carlin stop F3 Euro Series, no British Teams will be involved in F3 ES anymore and we would be left with:

3 German Teams
3 French Teams
1 Italian Team
1 Austrian (If HBR still participates looking at their end of season)
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Old 19 Nov 2009, 22:13 (Ref:2585381)   #7
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Although the series is facing tough times has anybody heard about any drivers at any teams?

These are the latest rumors I've heard:

ART: Bottas - Sims - Pla
Mucke: Christensen? - Wittmann? -
Signature: Vanthoor - Mortara ? - Abt ?
Prema:
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Jo Zeller:
Kolles & Heinz: Dusseldorp?
HBR:

I'm guessing that drivers like Mehri, Zanella, Rosenzweig, Geronimi or Caldarelli might repeat another season but no idea with which Team.

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Old 22 Nov 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2587156)   #8
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Maybe Nigel Melker to Mucke?
He has tested the car:
http://www.racexpress.nl/index.php?n...ikel&nid=19181

Maybe Nico Monien?
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 14:27 (Ref:2587195)   #9
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Merhi will probably stay ( less likely move to gp3 - his interview to AS.com).
As a mercedes driver i expect him go to Mucke , 90% sure of that.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 15:46 (Ref:2587217)   #10
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Merhi will probably stay ( less likely move to gp3 - his interview to AS.com).
As a mercedes driver i expect him go to Mucke , 90% sure of that.
He will stay,he said that Stopandgo.tv.

Imo we will see only 2 mucke next year.
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Old 23 Nov 2009, 12:30 (Ref:2587797)   #11
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Although the series is facing tough times has anybody heard about any drivers at any teams?

These are the latest rumors I've heard:

ART: Bottas - Sims - Pla
Mucke: Christensen? - Wittmann? -
Signature: Vanthoor - Mortara ? - Abt ?
Prema:
SG:
Motopark:
Jo Zeller:
Kolles & Heinz: Dusseldorp?
HBR:

I'm guessing that drivers like Mehri, Zanella, Rosenzweig, Geronimi or Caldarelli might repeat another season but no idea with which Team.
Vanthoor will be in a VW powered car in 2010, that was known last year allready, I think it's likely it's signature like you stated it
they rate him verry high so I doubt he will go to Kolles & Heinz because that would be a fail
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Old 23 Nov 2009, 14:47 (Ref:2587846)   #12
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Matias Laine to Motopark in 2010: http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...009/11/1002771 (in Finnish)

Motopark will change from Mercedes to VW power.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 09:11 (Ref:2588291)   #13
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Good to see VW starting to get it over Merc.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 09:14 (Ref:2588293)   #14
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Matias Laine to Motopark in 2010: http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...009/11/1002771 (in Finnish)

Motopark will change from Mercedes to VW power.

Quite interesting he has gone straight to F3, hope he goes well.


But for 2010 sad to see less cars. Maybe there could be a new team, hope so. But i fully expect it will be Art vs Signature.
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 10:28 (Ref:2588331)   #15
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Last year VW were again faster at Macau, then in F3ES they had worse season than 2008, so Mercedes will answer
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 15:38 (Ref:2588466)   #16
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Wittmann and Vanthoor to Signature http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=25628&cat=7
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 15:53 (Ref:2588474)   #17
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Good to see Wittmann continuing to race as he said he may have to give it up to work as a coach builder!
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Old 24 Nov 2009, 17:10 (Ref:2588534)   #18
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Wittmann and Vanthoor to Signature http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=25628&cat=7
Only 2 signatures?
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Old 25 Nov 2009, 10:47 (Ref:2588953)   #19
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Laurens just told me he knows nothing about the Signature deal
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Laurens just told me he knows nothing about the Signature deal
That's always good when a team signs you without your knowledge.

Any more information on this?
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Old 28 Nov 2009, 22:13 (Ref:2590980)   #21
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Antonio Felix Da Costa, 3rd in Eurocup Formula Renault and Winner of the NEC 2009, was testing with Motopark in Estoril last week .

It was the first outing of Motopark with the VW Engine

Felix Da Costa is a contender for a drive at Motopark in F3 Euro in 2010
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The Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters is not going to visit France next year

Since the F3 Euroseries rarely races alone, they wouldn't be visiting France in 2010??? The FFSA shouldn't have let their national F3 championship disappear.
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Old 29 Nov 2009, 13:59 (Ref:2591229)   #23
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The Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters is not going to visit France next year

Since the F3 Euroseries rarely races alone, they wouldn't be visiting France in 2010??? The FFSA shouldn't have let their national F3 championship disappear.

Yeah i'm french and it's a big shame.

F*** ITR and FFSA.
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I really hate it how Euroseries races only on German tracks, now Germany has both the Euroseries and the ATS German F3

Euroseries needs to be more European oriented ASAP

otherwise more teams will leave
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Euroseries needs to be more European oriented ASAP

otherwise more teams will leave
The best drivers will go to the series with the best drivers of the world, so they can prove that they are the best. For a championship like this, it doesn't matter that much which regions it visits. It does in categories to be sold (F1, IndyCar, Superleague, etc).

If the 2010 F3 Euroseries loses non-German venues, the British F3 will have less need (and pressure) to visit the mainland. Some of you may like that, don't you?
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