Cromley blames Ritter!

[Camaroz]

Did anyone else pick up on Cromley's comments towards the end of the telecast blaming the lap one incident on Ritter!

Personnel view - Tander stuffed the start, stuffed it down the inside at Murrays, ran out of talent, stuffed the race for 6 teams (incuding his own).

So where does 'wordsmith' Cromley get his view?

[davester]

Couldn't agree more on that one...Tander screwed it for everyone in that incident, and I personally like the guy and respect his talent.

[GTRMagic]

Barry Oliver spent the first hour of the race trying that line... that Mr Tander 'must' have been nudged from behind, as he shouldnt have been as out of control as he ultimately was.

Mr Ritter is a damage magnet at the moment.... perhaps this one was not his fault, but the other hits later on certainly were.... and the #5 Ozjet Falcon is now scrap

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Barry Oliver spent the first hour of the race trying that line... that Mr Tander 'must' have been nudged from behind, as he shouldnt have been as out of control as he ultimately was.

Mr Ritter is a damage magnet at the moment.... perhaps this one was not his fault, but the other hits later on certainly were.... and the #5 Ozjet Falcon is now scrap

Word is that it was close to scrap before it was wheeled out of the transporter (FPR - Failure (to) Produce (a) Racecar).

[GTRMagic]

Perhaps, but at least there wasnt 40kg of race tape keeping the car together when they rolled the car out of the truck

[twig]

That first lap was Tander's fault - even from what we saw. Even if Ritter touched the grass, that would have been because Tander didn't give him enough room.

The only other incident i remember was Ritter binning it at the esses - which i can only assume was his (or his co-driver's fault)

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Perhaps, but at least there wasnt 40kg of race tape keeping the car together when they rolled the car out of the truck

You sure about that?

[jewby]

Yeah but hang on. Tander's 3/4 out of control slide up the inside of Ritter coming into the corner and the tap Ritter gave that caused Tander to spin are two separate incidents. Tander came out of the corner on line and clearly in front of Ritter. Ritter was on the outside and could have avoided tapping Tander.

I think Tander was stupid for being so eager to pass in the first place, but Ritter could have avoided the incident. I think it was just a stupid piece from both of them.

[TerryK]

Channel TEN should stop being judge & jury on some of the calls, CAMS have enough trouble making the call without TEN in on the act.

I'm sure some calls by CAMS have been bent by TEN & what they said or have shown on TV..

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Camaroz

You sure about that?

Well there is a rumour that the team keeps 100mph tape in the boot of the race car just in case

I guess it just adds to the problems for Mr Ritter, who will not be part of FPR in 2006....

[retro]

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[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by jewby

Yeah but hang on. Tander's 3/4 out of control slide up the inside of Ritter coming into the corner and the tap Ritter gave that caused Tander to spin are two separate incidents. Tander came out of the corner on line and clearly in front of Ritter. Ritter was on the outside and could have avoided tapping Tander.

I think Tander was stupid for being so eager to pass in the first place, but Ritter could have avoided the incident. I think it was just a stupid piece from both of them.

You reckon Tander was "on-line" - show me both of your hands at the same time! When is heading for the fence on the exit "on-line" plus Bargs tapping Ritter as he is trying to avoid Tander "on-line". What we are talking about here is who caused it, not necessarily the concertina effect Tander caused.

[twig]

Originally Posted by jewby

Yeah but hang on. Tander's 3/4 out of control slide up the inside of Ritter coming into the corner and the tap Ritter gave that caused Tander to spin are two separate incidents. Tander came out of the corner on line and clearly in front of Ritter. Ritter was on the outside and could have avoided tapping Tander.

I think Tander was stupid for being so eager to pass in the first place, but Ritter could have avoided the incident. I think it was just a stupid piece from both of them.

I wouldn't say they were two seperate incidents. Sure, two seperate contacts, but the entire incident was caused by the initial contact, which was Tander's fault.

You could say that Ritter could have avoided it by going around the outside, but that's hindsight for you. What if Tander would have slid off the road to the outside and Ritter followed - Tander could have slid anywhere.

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I guess it just adds to the problems for Mr Ritter, who will not be part of FPR in 2006....

That's a shame. Ritter seemed to get the rough end of the stick at FPR (9 mechanical failures in this seasons races alone - not counting practice or testing - I believe a record for a V8 Supercar Team in one year) so I hope he gets a gig with a racing team next year that can at least screw a car together as opposed to screwing one up!

Why was Ritter called into pit lane by the team after posting the fastest Ford split time in the first and second sectors in Qualifying?

[RS500]

I never saw it as Ritters fault. Tander was pushing hard trying to make up for the time he lost off the start. Ritter was a innocent by stander sure he could of given him a bit more room but who expects idiotic moves like that on the first lap?

But then again I am a bit biased as i have never liked Tander and I am a huge Team BOC fan.

[MRJUCY]

The problem with Crompton is he often says his opinions as if they were facts & will rarely change his mind after the first time he saw it even if it was only a passing glance at first.

[GTRMagic]

Who on the #10 commentary team argues with him anyway?

[Mattracer]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

and the #5 Ozjet Falcon is now scrap

Waddya mean is 'now' scrap?

[GTRMagic]

I was wondering if FPR sent Mr Ritter out with strict instructions, to increase the number of bent panels available for sale to the public

He did that and then some

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I was wondering if FPR sent Mr Ritter out with strict instructions, to increase the number of bent panels available for sale to the public

He did that and then some

Your vindictive comments always come out when it comes to Ritter!

I'll play the game again GTR.... what are Sherrin Hire doing with their pile of scrap tutonic pig iron?

C MCL's times again?

[Uncle Cranker]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Well there is a rumour that the team keeps 100mph tape in the boot of the race car just in case

I guess it just adds to the problems for Mr Ritter, who will not be part of FPR in 2006....

Bit of a shame really, but once again it simply proves that nice guys come last.....

Oh and anybody doing home renovations next year, in Victoria, and need a good plasterer, give Greg Ritter a call, i'm sure you will get a good rate if you say you are a V8 SC fan.

[fordo]

I wonder what would have happened if Crompton and Ch10 had not kept going back to Ambrose over the balaclava incident. I know rules are rules but it was funny how they kept going on and on and on about Ambrose but didn't use their in car shots to quickly scan around a few others to check if they had one on.
Didn't Cromley also say that Menu caused the incident with Morris at Forest Elbow before the officials had made up their minds? And then they had to show Morris shooting his mouth off about Menu not knowing his racing rules. I think everyone knows which one has the most experience and titles to his name in International competition.
As for Greg Ritter, the whole weekend must have been one long nightmare with everything that happened to him. Was it really Ozjet on the side or Target!

[TerryK]

Originally Posted by fordo

I wonder what would have happened if Crompton and Ch10 had not kept going back to Ambrose over the balaclava incident. I know rules are rules but it was funny how they kept going on and on and on about Ambrose but didn't use their in car shots to quickly scan around a few others to check if they had one on.
Didn't Cromley also say that Menu caused the incident with Morris at Forest Elbow before the officials had made up their minds? And then they had to show Morris shooting his mouth off about Menu not knowing his racing rules. I think everyone knows which one has the most experience and titles to his name in International competition.
As for Greg Ritter, the whole weekend must have been one long nightmare with everything that happened to him. Was it really Ozjet on the side or Target!

I'm getting sick of TEN being judge & jury....what happens if they get it wrong or show bias toward or against a team. It's been known to happen to a certain team who's husband drives in the series. (wife works for TEN)

[Dazz]

I thought it was Tanders fault too, until I watched it all again frame by frame.

Tander made a mess of the run into the corner and the two of them were tripping over each other.

However once half way through the corner Tander was correcting his slide with the opposite lock coming off the car, and Ritter drilled him from behind. You can clearly see the rear of Tanders car begin to rise on the suspension, he quickly grabs more and more opposite lock and Ritter continues for some time to try to drive through Tander.

From that point on Tanders car continues to be pushed wide until he's out of opposite lock and the rear wheel slides onto the edge of the track before the car begins to once again head across the track into Ritter/Longhurst/Jones.

Tander goofed initially, but on closer inspection Ritter gave the Tander car a pretty big shove which was not necessary at all.

I'm no Tander or Ritter fan so this is purely an observation, not a defence of any one driver in this incident.

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by Dazz

I thought it was Tanders fault too, until I watched it all again frame by frame.

Tander made a mess of the run into the corner and the two of them were tripping over each other.

However once half way through the corner Tander was correcting his slide with the opposite lock coming off the car, and Ritter drilled him from behind. You can clearly see the rear of Tanders car begin to rise on the suspension, he quickly grabs more and more opposite lock and Ritter continues for some time to try to drive through Tander.

From that point on Tanders car continues to be pushed wide until he's out of opposite lock and the rear wheel slides onto the edge of the track before the car begins to once again head across the track into Ritter/Longhurst/Jones.

Tander goofed initially, but on closer inspection Ritter gave the Tander car a pretty big shove which was not necessary at all.

I'm no Tander or Ritter fan so this is purely an observation, not a defence of any one driver in this incident.

Here we go again.....

You start with an 'I thought it was Tanders fault..', then lay it back on Ritter then conceed "Tander goofed initially"... So you agree that Ritter did not cause the incident as per Cromleys observation?

Tander stuffed it, caused the concertina effect that caused Ritter and all the following drivers (not just Ritter) to fall over themselves. Remember Dazz, this is the last corner of the first lap. Bit hard to 'get out of it' when you've got another 12 cars up ya rear!!!

Go back through frame by frame and let me know who hit Ritter before Ritter contacted Tander can you?