gas turbine fuel differences?

[DanJR1]

ive heard that the new peoject 1221 MF1 is going to use a gas tubine fueled by diesel fuel so i was just wondering what the horsepower difference is between a gas turbine using normal kerosene and diesel?

[Rubinho]

It's specific calorific value is only nominally down on kerosene at 42.5MJ/kg vs. 43MJ/kg (Bosch Automotive Handbook) so I can't see the power output being affected too much. In fact from what I can see, diesel's more similar to kerosene in more ways than I would have expected with similar ignition temperatures and ideal air:fuel ratio. On the face of it it looks like it might be a reasonable alternative.

[Cameron Winton]

Many industrial applications of gas turbines use all sorts of fuel. In fact, in remote power generation (eg oil platforms) the engines have two fuel systems, one for liquid & one for gas. The well head slurry can even be used - plays havoc with fuel system due to sand particles.
What's project 1221 MF1?

[DanJR1]

project 1221 is basically a project by some italians to create the worlds fastest car but offer some strange extras like a choice of 4wd or 2wd and 4ws or 2ws. the main optional extra is armour and of cousre its being powered by a turbine. no pictures exist as of yet

[Richy_Rich]

Yeah, you can run turbine engines on pretty much anything from what I remember, including creosote at a pinch...

[Garp]

I think, the first gasturbines where running on diesel.
Not sure about the Frank whittle engine.

The Germans used diesel for their Me262 engines for sure.

[R59]

Originally Posted by Richy_Rich

Yeah, you can run turbine engines on pretty much anything from what I remember, including creosote at a pinch...

Ahhh, if it smells like it might burn, put it in the tank!

Reminds me of a local haulage firm that used to run Commer's with 2-stroke Rootes Supercharged TS-3 engine's (now there's a design!). In the days of fuel rationing, they were "on vapours" while returning to base, and had run out of vouchers for fuel, so stopped at a hardware shop, bought 5 gallons of creosote, and 5 gallons of "Pink" Paraffin. She smoked a bit, but they got home!!

Back to the turbines, from memory, yes, the original designes ran on diesel. I'm trying to think what the pulse-jets run on - ???

[R59]

Another name I've heard them called - "Windmills in tin cans".
As described by a man who normally works in the high revving world of large marine and stationary engines (fire's once a week, whether it needs to or not!)

[DanJR1]

so im guessin bio diesel would work just as well?

[thebear]

Here is another thread active at this time, started by an Engineering student who hopes to design a bio-diesel powered automotive turbine. Please watch for it and add links to this or perhaps the ADMINs can combine the threads in their own `special' way.