Japanese Grand Prix 2019: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 17 of 21

[Asa]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/n...ckstories/710/

NHK explains why Hagibis is so dangerous.

ANA and JAL cancelled all Tokyo flights (dep or arr) on Saturday. Bullet train service between Tokyo and Nagoya is cancelled on Saturday.

I don't think F1 qualifying will happen this Saturday. Even Sunday morning is doubtful.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Asa

ANA and JAL cancelled all Tokyo flights (dep or arr) on Saturday. Bullet train service between Tokyo and Nagoya is cancelled on Saturday.

I don't think F1 qualifying will happen this Saturday. Even Sunday morning is doubtful.

It has already been rescheduled for 10.00am Sunday. All track activity on Saturday has been cancelled.




P1 is currently on and it all looks dry atm.

[Asa]

Originally Posted by E.B

P1 is currently on and it all looks dry atm.

That's what happens with a Super Typhoon. It sucks in all the clouds and you experience a very hot and dry day before it hits. When it actually hits it is no joke. It can blow cars, trucks and even roofs of buildings off. Just search for videos of Super Typhoon Mangkhut which hit South China last year.

[Born Racer]

Qualifying to take place on Sunday morning: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...JUIEKgtvu.html

[Armco Bender]

Bit of a tailwind on the straight,it'll be fine,the drivers are paid the big money for this sort of stuff.

[Born Racer]

Circuit length: 5.807km
Number of laps: 53
Race distance: 307.471km
Dry weather tyre compounds: C1, C2 & C3
Race Lap Record: 1:31.540 (2005 - Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari)
First Japanese Grand Prix: 1963
First World Championship Grand Prix: 1976
First World Championship Grand Prix at this circuit: 1987



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[Asa]

Second practice results

[S griffin]

So a repeat of 2004 and 2010 in that we have qualifying moved to Sunday. Bottas fastest in both sessions, let's see how he goes in qualifying. Should be an interesting weekend anyways

[TrapezeArtist]

Why does the Japanese GP continue to be scheduled in typhoon season?

[Peter Mallett]

Those Renaults are slooooow

[bjohnsonsmith]

They are saying in Autosport, that the second practice session could decide the grid, if potential rain means qualifying cannot take place on Sunday morning, as all Saturday activities have already been cancelled.

Does anyone know what the rules are regarding situations like this? In IndyCar, if qualifying can't take place because of bad weather, the grid is set according to the championship points table.

https://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/146518

[chillibowl]

I would say, no doubt unpopularly, that if quali cannot happen then they should try out a reverse grid.

Purpose built track where winning from the back is possible and the championship pretty muched settled at the front at least...forgive the terrible pun but a perfect storm to try out something different.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

I would say, no doubt unpopularly, that if quali cannot happen then they should try out a reverse grid.

Purpose built track where winning from the back is possible and the championship pretty muched settled at the front at least...forgive the terrible pun but a perfect storm to try out something different.

Considering how the weather has already adversely affected the race weekend, why not? I liked the pun, very apt.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

They are saying in Autosport, that the second practice session could decide the grid, if potential rain means qualifying cannot take place on Sunday morning, as all Saturday activities have already been cancelled.

Does anyone know what the rules are regarding situations like this? In IndyCar, if qualifying can't take place because of bad weather, the grid is set according to the championship points table.

https://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/146518

Pretty sure Autosport are correct, failing a quali session, the grid is determined by the final completed qualifying session.

I think the way the points are connected to team revenue rules out reverse grids.

[chillibowl]

Some teams may benefit from the chance to score more points...but yeah there would never be unanimous consent. As you say, points are connected to money.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Why does the Japanese GP continue to be scheduled in typhoon season?

Its my understanding that typhoon season in Japan covers a wide swath of the calendar. Granted, it is schedule on the tail end of the peak (August/September). Given the transportation schedule, you either have it in the spring (around Australia) or run into pushing it deeper into fall/winter than it already is.

Richard

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

Its my understanding that typhoon season in Japan covers a wide swath of the calendar. Granted, it is schedule on the tail end of the peak (August/September). Given the transportation schedule, you either have it in the spring (around Australia) or run into pushing it deeper into fall/winter than it already is.

Richard

Looking at the Pacific Typhoon season, the previous dates are recorded as:

2010: Jan 18-Dec 20 (quietest Typhoon season on record)
2011: Apr 11-Jan 1
2012: Jan 13 - Dec 29
2013: Jan 1 - Dec 3
2014: Jan 10 - Jan 1
2015: Jan 2 - Dec 23
2016: May 25 - Dec 28
2017: Jan 7 - Dec 26
2018: Dec 29 - Dec 29
2019: Dec 29 - ongoing

So if you wanted to avoid the risk of typhoon, the best time would appear to be Feb/Mar?

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Looking at the Pacific Typhoon season, the previous dates are recorded as:

2010: Jan 18-Dec 20 (quietest Typhoon season on record)
2011: Apr 11-Jan 1
2012: Jan 13 - Dec 29
2013: Jan 1 - Dec 3
2014: Jan 10 - Jan 1
2015: Jan 2 - Dec 23
2016: May 25 - Dec 28
2017: Jan 7 - Dec 26
2018: Dec 29 - Dec 29
2019: Dec 29 - ongoing

So if you wanted to avoid the risk of typhoon, the best time would appear to be Feb/Mar?

Right. Australia (first GP) this year was March 17th. Two weeks later is Bahrain. Do you do back to back to back weekends - Australia, Japan, Bahrain (which I expect would be tough on the team) or start the season earlier (which has it's own issues)? I don't think there are any good answers.

I love the Japanese GP and weather is always going unpredictable at all events (some have more risk than others). So IMHO, the current schedule is about as good as any.

Richard

[Asa]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20191011_80/

NHK is predicting 1,000mm of rain for Sat and Sun in the Tokai (Suzuka) region. That is absolutely disastrous conditions.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Asa

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20191011_80/

NHK is predicting 1,000mm of rain for Sat and Sun in the Tokai (Suzuka) region. That is absolutely disastrous conditions.

With the prediction of 1m of rain in the region, I have to wonder what the drainage situation is for the circuit. While the weather looks to be better Sunday (things can very quickly improve after these pass), it might do damage on Saturday that can't be addressed before a Sunday GP.

On the plus side, it looks like the storm is tracking to the east, so I believe that means Suzuka may miss the larger storm surge and winds that would be on the east side of the storm.

Regardless, its a strong storm and someone is going to be in it's path.

Richard

[S griffin]

Don’t they still have a parc ferme rule after qualifying? If they use FP2 times, that might complicate things a little, but they should find a way

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Don’t they still have a parc ferme rule after qualifying? If they use FP2 times, that might complicate things a little, but they should find a way

I believe that there are special rules/regulations for occasions when practice/qualifying takes place in the dry, and when the race is declared wet. This permits teams to make more adjustments than under normal circumstances.

[Richard C]

I was thinking that some teams run older high mileage power units in FP1 and 2 (assuming they have them available), but then switch to the race/qualifying units for Saturday and Sunday. If my understanding is correct, I expect they will allow that to go ahead? Especially if the potential for Sunday qualifying still exists?

Richard

[Aysedasi]

That has to be the case, surely?

[Adam43]

There is no issue here with parc ferme rules. I may be corrected, but they haven’t kicked in yet.

Did the teams know FP2 may count for the grid before the end of FP2. Did they treat part of it like an old school practice/qualifying?