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Old 24 Oct 2004, 04:53 (Ref:1133372)   #1
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Surfers paradise Race Results (Results now posted)

STARTING GRID FOR SURFERS PARADISE INDY 300


1.Paul Tracy 1.33.556 (22nd Career Pole)
Forsythe Championship Racing
222nd Career start


2.Sebastien Bourdais 1.33.765 (5th time starting 2nd) *Time set on friday
Newman/Haas Racing
31st Career start


3.Bruno Junqueira 1.33.737 (10th time starting 3rd)
Newman/Haas Racing
70th career start


4.A.J. Allmendinger 1.33.867 (3rd time starting 4th)
RuSPORT
13th Career start


5.Mario Dominguez 1.34.076 (4th time starting 5th)
Herdez Competition
50th Career start


6.Ryan Hunter-Reay 1.34.585 (2nd time starting 6th)
Herdez Competition
31st career start


7.Justin Wilson 1.34.611 (2nd time starting 7th)
Mi-Jack Conquest Racing
13th Career start


8.Jimmy Vasser 1.34.913 (10th time starting 8th)
PKV Racing
217th Career start


9.Michel Jourdain Jr. 1.35.115 (4th time starting 9th)
RuSPORT
151st Career start


10.Alex Tagliani 1.35.258 (4th time starting 10th
Rocketsports Racing
90th Career start


11.Patrick Carpentier 1.35.261 (6th time starting 11th)
Forsythe Championship Racing
139th Career start


12.Rodolfo Lavin 1.35.267 (2nd time starting 12th)
Forsythe Championship Racing
31st Career start


13.Mario Haberfeld 1.35.374 (4th time starting 13th)
Walker Racing
31st Career start


14.Nelson Phillipe 1.35.797 (2nd time starting 14th)
Mi-Jack Conquest Racing
10th Career start


15.Roberto Gonzalez 1.35.967 (3rd time starting 15th)
PKV Racing
15th Career start


16.Jarek Janis 1.36.642
DEBUT CHAMPCAR RACE


17.David Besnard 1.36.854
DEBUT CHAMPCAR RACE


18.Guy Smith 1.36.943 (1st time starting 18th)
Rocketsports Racing
6th Career start


19.Oriol Servia DID NOT SET A TIME (1st time starting 19th)
Dale Coyne Racing
85th Career start



FAST FACTS


Mario Dominguez will start his 50th Champcar race this weekend

David Besnard and Jarek janis will make their debuts this weekend

Previous Winners

1991 : John Andretti
1992 : Emerson Fittipaldi
1993 : Nigel Mansell
1994 : Michael Andretti
1995 : Paul Tracy
1996 : Jimmy Vasser
1997 : Scott Pruett
1998 : Alex Zanardi
1999 : Dario Franchitti
2000 : Adrian Fernandez
2001 : Cristiano Da Matta
2002 : Mario Dominguez
2003 : Ryan Hunter Reay


INDY 300 RACE RESULTS

1. Bruno Junqueira 7th Career Victory

2. Sebastien Bourdais


3. Mario Dominguez


4. Paul Tracy


5. Ryan Hunter-Reay


6. AJ Allmendinger


7. David Besnard Career Best Finish

8. Justin Wilson


9. Guy Smith Equal Career Best Finish


10.Nelson Phillipe


11.Roberto Gonzalez


12.Jimmy Vasser


13.Oriol Servia


14.Mario Haberfeld


15.Rodolfo Lavin



DNF'S

Alex Tagliani Contact Lap 19
Jarek Janis Mechanical Lap 28
Michel Jourdain Jnr Lost wheel Lap 31
Patrick Carpentier Crash lap 53

Fastest lap was by Bruno Junqueira on lap 49 with a time of 1.34.017


Championsip Ponits


1 Sebastien Bourdais 335
2 Bruno Junqueira 313
3 Patrick Carpentier 247
4 Paul Tracy 243
5 Mario Dominguez 228 (+1)
6 Alex Tagliani 208 (-1)
7 A.J. Allmendinger (R) 204
8 Ryan Hunter-Reay 197
9 Oriol Servia 182
10 Jimmy Vasser 180
11 Michel Jourdain Jr. 172
12 Justin Wilson (R) 165
13 Mario Haberfeld 151
14 Rodolfo Lavin 148
15 Roberto Gonzalez (R) 127
16 Nelson Philippe (R) 84
17 Gaston Mazzacane (R) 73
18 Guy Smith (R) 49 (+1)
19 Alex Sperafico (R) 47 (-1)
20 David Besnard (R) 18 (debut)
21 Memo Gidley 15 1 (-1)
22 Tarso Marques 6 (-1)
23 Jarek Janis (R) 3 (debut)


Nations Cup


1 Canada 359
2 France 325
3 Brazil 325
4 USA 285
5 Mexico 280
6 Catalonia 178
7 England 172
8 Argentina 73
9 Australia 17 (debut)
10 Czech Republic 3 (debut)


Constructors Cup

1 Lola 429
2 Reynard 161

Rookie Of the Year

1 A.J. Allmendinger (R) 204
2 Justin Wilson (R) 165
3 Roberto Gonzalez (R) 127
4 Nelson Philippe (R) 84
5 Gaston Mazzacane (R) 73
6 Guy Smith (R) 49 (+1)
7 Alex Sperafico (R) 47 (-1)
8 David Besnard (R) 18 (debut)
9 Jarek Janis (R) 3 (debut)


PREVIOUS ROUND RESULTS
Rnd 1 Long Beach
Rnd 2 Monterrey
Rnd 3 Milwaukee
Rnd 4 Portland
Rnd 5 Cleveland
Rnd 6 Toronto
Rnd 7 Vancouver
Rnd 8 Road America
Rnd 9 Denver
Rnd 10 Montreal
Rnd 11 Laguna Seca
Rnd 12 Las Vegas

Whats next ?

Rnd 14 Mexico Grand Prix November 7

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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:32 (Ref:1133405)   #2
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apologies for the large picture I will try and fix that.

But hey on his performance he probably deserves it
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:34 (Ref:1133409)   #3
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:40 (Ref:1133411)   #4
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As I type this, no report has been given about Carpentier's condition.
His wreck looked pretty bad. My thoughts are with him...

Good race on the Gold Coast.
NO PIT WINDOWS WHATSOEVER!!!
This set up a potentially fantastic finish.
But made P2P a rather non-factor.

Bruno picks up the win because:
- PT puts his car into the runoff.
- Bourdais fails to beat him out of the pits.

Congrats to Bruno - I'm quite happy that the championship is going down to the wire. I'm not so sure that he deserved it, as the brain-fade he suffered on the earlier restart (allowing himself to fall five seconds behind the leaders) was rather odd.

Congrats to Besnard, whose name the announcers didn't pronounce correctly, not a single time. Unless, of course, it is phonetically "Bernard"...

That lack of pit windows was a refreshing change, I'd imagine that CC gets alot of positive feedback.

Yet my enjoyment of this race is on "hold" until I hear a report about Patrick.
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:41 (Ref:1133413)   #5
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yes Macdaddy it is pronounces Bernard
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:46 (Ref:1133418)   #6
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Well then, he spells it wrong!
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 06:51 (Ref:1133422)   #7
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yeah but he can drive
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 07:11 (Ref:1133443)   #8
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Great shot here of the race winner


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Old 24 Oct 2004, 07:15 (Ref:1133444)   #9
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one thing I'd like to knowe is how come Besnard earned 18 points in the championship but yet Australia have only been creditted with 17 in the Nations cup points ?
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Championship premutations

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Championsip Ponits

1 Sebastien Bourdais 335
2 Bruno Junqueira 313
etc...
The abolute maxiumum points total Bruno can finish with is 338. That is if he wins (and thus leads a lap or more), takes both pole points and sets fastest lap.

Bourdais would then need to score 13 points to take the title. A 9th place finish would suffice.

That assumes Bruno is fastest in both qualifying sessions. If SB took both pole points (and based on this season there is more chance of that than there is of Bruno taking those points) then 9 points on race day would be enough for him to take the title. 9pts = 12th place finish (or leading a lap and finishing 13th and so on...).

For Junqueira to take the title it will need Bourdais to have some bad luck in Mexico on race day.
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 07:34 (Ref:1133457)   #11
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Re: Championship premutations

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For Junqueira to take the title it will need Bourdais to have some bad luck in Mexico on race day.
Lets just hope it happens!

It would be great for Bruno to win!
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Just to prove Bruno tired his guts out today


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Thanks, x_dt. Good summary and helps to put things in focus.
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 08:04 (Ref:1133499)   #14
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I quite enjoyed that race. Bruno was the fastest guy this weekend and deserved the win.

I was thrilled with the Tracy/Bourdais battle early in the race.

Early word on Carpentier is that he's ok - let's hope that's true.

I'm stoked for Besnard. Let's hope some people can do some wheeling and dealing to get him a more frequent gig.
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one thing I'd like to knowe is how come Besnard earned 18 points in the championship but yet Australia have only been creditted with 17 in the Nations cup points ?
Do they count bonus points in the NC?
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Old 24 Oct 2004, 12:54 (Ref:1133795)   #16
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I'm pretty sure they don't mookey, and that that's where the extra point came from.

Nice that the title goes down to the wire, although it'd be a shame if anyone other than Seb wins it. Also good to see Besnard (which is pronoucned Bernard, not sure why) and Wilson doing well.
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By the way, is Jarek Janis the same guy as Jaroslav Janis?
If so, how come he is Jarek now?
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Great race, (apart from the scary end), the highlight being Seb and Tracy braving it out, side by side, and Tracy being the bravest as he managed to stay ahead, which wasn't looking that likely halfway down the preceeding straight!

Has there ever been a bad race at Surfers? :confused: (2002 doesn't count, I said RACE! )
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Some thoughts:
* Most important: Sounds like Pat will be okay.
* Through much of the race, PT was really slowing everyone down and putting in laps .5-1s off the potential pace. Was he saving fuel or simply could do no better? TK, Daily, Jenkins seemed to indicate that he was getting worse milage than others.
* First corner Bourdais while "challanging" PT, he took a horrible line to the corner, there's no way he was going to pull that off without cutting the cones/tires, then Wilson touched him. Bourdais essentially went straight into the entry, that's why he caught up. He was banking on someone being able to cut. Dirty move. I have to agree with TK that I'm not so sure I like the whole chicane cutting thing.
* Nelson - When did this guy learn to drive? He was quiet impressive, actually on a fast pace, made a pass for position on Lavin and had to again pass Lavin to lap him like it was for position. Take qualifying out of the mix and I think he probably had a better race performance than his team mate Wilson!
* I think fuel issues semi-ruined the race. I don't like windows, etc., but I think we would have seen better racing. I think through most of the race PT and Junky were running slow and later on Bourdais and Junky to nearly the end because of fuel economy. It would have been kind of neat to see Besnard on the podium, but that's not a legit result.
* Can't believe that PT threw away a victory with that mistake.
* Dominguez was on fire. I really want to see this guy with a competitive setup at Mexico. I don't know that he had much for the NH guys when the put in their fastest laps, but it's clear he's able to run his car to the limit and certainly pull away from RHR.

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By the way, is Jarek Janis the same guy as Jaroslav Janis?
If so, how come he is Jarek now?
His nickname, sorta like "Alex" Zanardi I guess.

Patreek is in hospital, but is A-ok.

And can I say, that was a best damn race I have seen in a long time, and the first real Champ Car race since 2001. That was awsome. I'm am now 100% fully on the fence again. Infact I am so on the fence i've got splinters in my pants. That was great.

Great job by Bessie as well! (We call him Bessie, but he's Behnard...we australians are wierd...)

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Anyone else here in the states have a problem hearing the commentary by Rick Benjamin and Tommy Kendall? They seem to be drowned out by the engine noises. BTW, I'm watching the race now, had to tape it 'cause I had to work when the race was on, don't know if it gets better later on.
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I had those commentators and they were fine from my end.
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I can hear the engines fine, but the commentators seemed to have their mics turned off. If I turned up the volume to hear the commentators, the cars would be so loud, you'd think there was one in my living room.
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Well Done David

I know it's not a V8 specific thread, but he is one of 'ours' - congrats to Besnard for scoring Championship points. With the talk recently of WPS having more drivers than cars would it be possible this may lead to a full time gig O/S for DB?
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