March 703 - 713

[RAP]

Mike Lawrence's book on March says that 16 703 F3 cars were built. I have tried to identify them but only come up with 14. These are, with approx first date of racing, -
David Morgan 27 March
Edward Reeves 30 March
Geoff Bremner 5 April - later entered by Team March - different car?
Eifelland x 4 19 April - drivers in year included W Duetsch, H Werner, H Ertl, W v Bulow, F Pesch, M Mohr, K Enders, D Sommer, W Brohel
Peter Deal 26 April
Edvard Jacobsen 26 April
Leif Hallgren 26 April?
Rudy Gygax/Team Midland 9 May
Michel Dupont/Ecurie la Meute 17 May
Team March - Tom Walkinshaw 6 June
Tean March - Ian Ashley June.
Tm March cars driven later in year by Colin Vandervell and Cyd Williams + once by Dick Barker.
Of the other two, the obvious answers are either replacements for write off of perhaps Team March have more than two.

Can anyone help? Chassis numbers would at least narrow things down if any one has them.
RAP

[Adam Ferrington]

RAP,

Here are the 703s, as listed in March's records :-

Chassis no, Frame No, Customer, Engine, Delivery Date, Colour
703-1 AM70-34 Works/Ian Ashley (No Engine) 3/6/70 Red & White
(703-1)AM70-39 Works Ian Ashley Replacement Frame Crashed at Mallory (Raced only once - Written off 26/7/70)
(703-1)AM70-25 rebuilt as replacement frame for Works/Ashley
703-2 AM70-31 Works/Petnoyer Tom Walkinshaw (No Engine)3/6/70 Petnoyer Colours
(703-2)AM70-36 Works/Petnoyer Replacement Frame Crashed at Snetterton
703-3 AM70-10 Eifelland Holbay R70-705 14/4/70 (No colour)
703-4 AM70-12 Ed Reeves Holbay 27/3/70 Blue
703-5 AM70-14 Gygax Novamotor 15/4/70 Blue
703-6 AM70-13 Eddy Jacobson Novamotor (No Del.Date) Blue
703-7 AM70-11 Halligran Holbay R70-760 27/3/70 Orange
703-9 AM70-26 Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White
703-10 AM70-24 Willy Deutsch/Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White
703-11 AM70-15 Jeff Bremner Lucas (ex March) 27/3/40 Green
703-13 AM70-30 Dave Morgan Felday 25/4/70 White
703-14 AM70-28 Dupont (No Engine, Delivery Date or Colour)
703-15 AM70-32 (Not Sold) Green
703-16 AM70-29 Peter Deal Lucas 25/4/70 Red
703-17 AM70-25 Harald Ertl/Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White (Note - rebuilt into Petnoyer 703-1)
(703-17)AM70-38 Eifelland Replacement Frame Crashed by Harald Ertl (Del?) 11/7/70
703-18 AM70-18 Eifeland Holbay R70-757 15/5/70 White

So there were 16 cars with nos 8 and 12 not used.
Note that even in mid-1970 March had already started rebuilding "written-off" frames/tubs (see 703-1 above).

Hope this clarifies things.

[RAP]

Wow! What a response. Thanks you very much indeed Adam. Any chance you could do the same for 713S / 713M as I was about to do a similar summary (promise I won't ask for any more !!)
RAP

[Adam Ferrington]

RAP,

I'll try to post the 713s tomorrow.

[Chris Townsend]

Adam

I'm awe struck. Right down to the frames!
You don't by chance have 733s? The Atlantic records would benefit from recording Mr Brise's Bardahl car!

Chris

[Adam Ferrington]

Chris,

Don't thank me, thank some lonely sole keeping records at Bicester when all around him were wheeling/dealing/fiddling!

The problem is there are large gaps in the copies I have (all 1972, most Atlantic cars) and the level of detail/format of the records varies.........but

Brise's 733 was 21 (in this case only 13 of the 26 chassis built are identified by customer).

[Chris Townsend]

Adam

Yes, you wonder who they might have employed as a book keeper.
Just how they kept pace in later seasons would be an interesting story!
What Atlantic records do you have?

Chris

[Adam Ferrington]

Chris,

Unfortunately amongst what I have there are no separate lists for any of the Atlantic/FB models, other than the 705s. The copies concentrate on F1, F2 and F3 (and there are significant gaps in these) - no sports cars either.

[Adam Ferrington]

Richard,

March 713s as promised :-

March 713S (March's list say 9 built)
1 AM71-2 Test car then James Hunt (No date/Colour)
(1)AM71-14 Replacement Chassis for James Hunt (Crash Goodwood 5/3/71) 1/4/71
2 AM71-5 Show Car to Eifelland/Helmut .... Less Engine 13/3/71 No colour
3 AM71-3 Eifelland Less Engine 11/3/71 No colour
4 AM71-10 Zitzen Holbay Engine 3/4/71 Silver
5 AM71-9 Eifelland/Erwin .... Less engine 12/3/71 No colour
6 AM71-13 Eifelland Less Engine 19/3/71 No colour
7 No No. Eifelland with Engine 29/3/71 No colour
8 AM71-16 Eifelland with engine 5/4/71 ? No colour

March 713M (March's list says 11 built)
1 No No. Eifelland/Hannelore (Werner) No date White
2 AM71-7 McIntosh-Reid 16/2/71 Blue
3 No No. Roger Williamson 3/3/71 Red
4 No No. Tim Goss 12/3/71 Yellow
5 No No. Cavin Riley No date Silver Blue
6 No No. John Bisignano 11/5/71 Midnight Blue
7 No No. M.R.E. 17/5/71 Red/White
8 No No. James Hunt No date or Colour
9 No No. Brendan McInerney 17/6/71 Blue

If 11 were built then it would take a process of elimination to work out which the other two were.
I think McIntosh-Reid was Tom Walkinshaw's Ecurie Ecosse car.

[RAP]

Thank you very much Adam. A couple of observations/questions.

713S - in July 71 BOTH Lee Kaye (entrant Peter Bloore) and David Morgan appeared together at a couple of meetings eg 1st Aug Thruxton. One was almost certainly the ex Hunt car but what of the other? The Morgan car is sometimes shown as a 713M.

713M By early September there seem to have been 10, maybe 11 cars active On the weekend of 12th per F1R Fact Book -
At Crystal Palace (most also at Brands next day) - Hunt, McInerney, Williamson, Walkinshaw (dna), Bisignano, Spitzley, Goss, MacDonald, Riley. Bond was entered at Brands but dna but he raced on both the preceding and subsequent weekends. The Walkinshaw car does not seem to have run after mid August, just about when both Spitzley and MacDonald appear so I guess one of these would be Walkinshaw's. So that looks like 9 cars active in UK. (+ P Bloore 713S) By the end of October Hurst is also out in a 713M so this makes 10 entered for 24 Oct Brands.(Hunt, McInerney, Hurst, Williamson, Bisignano, Bond, Goss, Spitzley, Riley. Macdonald)

You have one for Eifeland and certainly there are occaisionl entries for German drivers over the course of the year including a Dietmar Floehr who was a dna at Brands 24 Oct. One final mystery is that the Fact Book has both Floehr and Freddy Link at Monza in 713M but at Brands 24 Oct Link is shown as 712M I suspect this correct.

So, we have 9 for sure but probably 10 in UK + the German car.

[Chris Townsend]

The Dave Morgan 713 was 713S-1, used in F3 and Atlantic, then on to Mike Wilds in 72 and early season 73. Last known user [by me] Mark Pritchard in F4 in 1976.

Bond's car is 713M-10, the number given in an Autosport race report on the car's debut in August

The Walkinshaw car goes first to Chris Oates [not raced] then to John MacDonald, who kept it in 1972 [both AS and MN report the car as ex Walkinshaw]. Used by Nick Crossley early 73

I thought that Hurst took over the Bisignano car. Do they ever appear at the same race?

[Adam Ferrington]

Richard,

F1R show a few chassis numbers in 1971 and 1972

They show Bev Bond in -10 at Oulton Park on 20/8/71 and Spiztley in -11 at Mallory Park on 29/5/72.
This would imply that Hurst's and MacDonald's cars were two of the first 9, resold.

I have a vague memory that Spitzley later (73-74) raced a 713M updated to 733 spec, with a chassis number 713M-7.
matbe he sold his own 713Min 72 and bought an updated one for 73 F3?

[Chris Townsend]

Adam

My suspicion is that F1R is wrong! 11 is way too early in May if Bond doesn't appear in 10 until August. Spitzley raced a 713M in 1972 having tried to sell it over the close season 71-72. At the beginning of 73 the reference in the mags is to it being his regular F3 car, so I reckon it was 7 all along. [Though maybe they wouldn't have known the difference anyway...]

Chris

[RAP]

" thought that Hurst took over the Bisignano car. Do they ever appear at the same race? "
Chris. I think you are right. Both are ENTERED for 24th Oct Brands. Hurstis 28th in Ht1 but Bisignano appears to be DNA. Hurst then races at Brands 31 Oct and Lydden 20 Nov but no further races by Bisignano F1R Fact book has Hurst in 713 at Chimay in May but I suspect this is wrong and should be 703.
Adam's reference to Spitzley in 713-11 is May 1972 not 1971 !!
From F1R we have
713M 1 Walkinshaw debut 21 March
713M 3 Williamson debut 14 Match
713M 4 Goss debut 21 March
713M 9 McInerney debut 18 June
713M 10 Bond debut 15 Aug
713M 11 Spitzley debut 11 Sept

[jamesl]

Bev Bond switched to 713M-10 mid season after he finished with the Ensign team late July 1971.This car has been raced in recent years in HSCC, winning the the Classic F3 championship outright in 2003 and taking class honours in 2004 after Chris Levy ditched it 3/4 through the season to go URS FF2000.It now lives in Holland and races in the Dutch Monoposto series ( www.monoposto.nl ) Interesting enough, Bev Bond was reunited with his old car at Silverstone this summer where he was the guest of the classic F3 club.

[Chris Townsend]

Autosport race report for Brands race on 21.3 71 gives following chassis numbers.
Walkinshaw [1]; Williamson [3]; Goss [4]
This is debut race for Walkinshaw and Goss.
I don't necessarily disbelieve the number given for Walkinshaw AT THIS RACE, since it's quite possible that March loaned out the chassis intended for Eifelland if there was a problem with chassis 2.

Hurst at Chimay in 72 uses 713M with Richardson engine. Very full report of the race in Motoring News. When Hurst appears with this car at Zandvoort , 30.4.72, either MN or Autosport says the car is ex Bisignano.

Does anyone know which car was the one used by Anthony Binnington in 1972?

Chris
Walkinshaw doesn't appear the previous week at Mallory, although Ec.Ecosse has had the car [chassis 2] for a month then, based on March's delivery date.
I just think that F1R has done its usual trick of extending a single chassis observation across a whole season.
Two questions germane to this: When was the first appearance for Werner [or anyone else] in an Eifelland 713M? Are there any press reports of Walkinshaw stuffing a 713M in testing in February or early March 71?

Chris

[RAP]

Using the F1R Fact Book (I don’t have MN) I have identified the following non-British based 713M recorded-
11 April Nurburgring Gygax BUT the Germen F3 site lists this as a 703 which I tend to believe.
22 May Monaco J P Jarier DNA and never appears again so a speculative entry?
The first “probable” is Dietmar Floer (Sc Corsa Meda) Ricard 3 July but he either dna or dnq’d. He next appears 24 July Imola where he crashed then Monza 19 Sept, Brands 24 Oct dna
W Deutsch Magny Cours 14 July dna
Freddy Link at Silverstone 17 July & Monza 19 Sept (dns) Brands 24 Oct SHOWN as 712M
M Mohr Mendig 29 August
W Sommer Thruxton 19 Sept

The German F3 site does not distinguish between 713M & 713S but at Mendig 29 Aug Eifelland have 7 cars recorded in the results as 713 so that supports Adam’s info on 6 x 713S + 1 x 713M.
“!just think that F1R has done its usual trick of extending a single chassis observation across a whole season.”
in the F3 Fact books they don’t do this = chassis numbers are recorded only again individual meetings, based, I believe, on observation. The data is
21 March Hunt 713S 1, Walkinshaw 713M 1, Goss 713M 4, Williamson 713M 3
18 July McInerney 713M 9
21 Aug Bond 713M 10
29 May 72 Spitzley 712M 11, de Henning 713M 9

By chance I have found in Autosport 20 May 71 “ One of the four F3 cars which arrived at Oulton on Saturday was the 713M formerly owned by Charles McIntosh-Ried and driven once or twice by Tom Walkinshaw. McIntosh-Reid had hoped that Tecalemit-Jackson would be helping to develop an engine for the car but the deal fell through and the car was traded to Chris Oates who has installed Mike Tobitt’s Holbay motor. Oates is still committed to his Formula Atlantic drive and the March will only be raced until a suitable buyer is found”
Oates is a dna at Brands 30 May then no sign.
It seems that Walkinshaw drove both 713M-1 & 713M-7 during the early season.

[pirenzo]

Hi guys, I just discovered this thread, and just had to show it to my dad.

He bought a March 703 from a guy called Roger Hurst in the mid-70s. It had recently been converted to a FF2000 car, and was minus a gearbox, and never raced in FF2000 spec. As far as my dad knows, the car's only notable race was when Hurst drove it in an exceptionally wet F3 race at Monza, in which he ended up following a Fire Engine on track, which he'd mistaken for another car because all he could actually see was the spray coming off the back of it.
My dad sold it in February/March 1979 to take my mum (then only 18) on holiday to Monte Carlo. As far as he knew it was going to form the basis for a Hillman Imp SuperSaloon.
Does anyone have any idea which chassis this might have been? My dad can't remember the chassis number, in fact he's not sure if there was one by the time he got it.

thanks in advance

[Chris Townsend]

According to either Motoring News or Autosport, [can't find exact note at moment] Hurst ran the ex Ed Reeves March 703 in 1971, which would be 703-4. In 1972 he runs a March 703 and a "Lenham March" for Richard Croucher, which might be based on this car.
So this might be the basis of your dad's car. Did he run it in FF2000?
What's your dad's name?

Chris

[pirenzo]

Sadly, because he could never afford to buy the gearbox he never raced it, so as a FF2000 car it never saw the track which is quite sad really. I guess my dad would have aquired it some years after it was built, as he was at 'Motor Racing Stables' at Brands for two years in 1975 and 1976, so it must have been around that time he got it. He thinks he got it for £750
He remembers it being a sort of mid-blue colour when he got it which he didn't like very much so he painted it off white. He also says Lenham March sounds vaguely familiar.
FWIW, the name is Tim Campbell, but since he never raced I'm not sure that'll be any use to you.

Anyway, thanks for the info, my dad's certainly pleased to have found some more out about it.

[Dan Rear]

The only records I have of Marches in FF2000 were in 1975, when both Brian Davis and Peter Orlando entered at MP. The latter had a series no. of 44, the former 45, so I guess this could have been one and the same car, and they were mates.

Given that, I think, the series was for spaceframes only, I suppose they must have been converted 1970/71 F3 cars ?

[Chris Townsend]

Spitzley's cars:

Looking at Adam's programme notes for F.Atlantic when Spitzley shows up it's with 733-7. Is this necessarily 713M-7 rebuilt or is it 713M-11, where we do perhaps have an accurate record for Spitzley using it in 1972? If so, what happened to 713M-7 which originally went to MRE?

[Dan Rear]

Chris, I see Matt S entered in a 733 at the Sept 73 Mallory JP F3 round. Was this really a 713M? Next at Mall again in F At, June 74, in a 74B, the same car, or was the latter 'genuine' ?

[Adam Ferrington]

Chris,

The one thing I remember about Spizley's car was that it was an updated 713M throughout 73 and 74.
Do my programme notes actually say "733-7", or just "-7" against an entry which says "March 733"? (I inadvertantly deleted my copy of the scans I sent you).

[Chris Townsend]

Adam

It's clearly 733-7

Chris