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We Love Osella · 12 Nov 2005, 23:24 (Ref:1459233)

Why does everyone assume that when the single tyre formula comes in that it will either be Bridgestone or Michelin. There are plenty of other tyre manufacturer sout there

Dutton · 12 Nov 2005, 23:35 (Ref:1459246)

I am going to repeat a post I put in the Wall Street Journal thread that never got any response.

*****

Goodyear and Dunlop.

Bridgestone and Firestone.

What other tyre companies, if any, are part of either of these? What are the other tyre company relationships?

I am wondering, because it could help with norrwing down exactly who the possible suspects are.

Yokahama, Avon, and Pirelli, for example, could be possible...or could they? Where do they fit in? I am not a tyre buff, so I don't know the complexities of the relationships and/or the various priorites/capabilities involved.

I am assuming there is at least one tyre-technonerd screeching about this place.

Kirk · 12 Nov 2005, 23:55 (Ref:1459259)

It doesn't matter to me what is branded on the tyres. What does matter to me... that one manufacturer will increase competition on the track, where I want it!

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 00:33 (Ref:1459272)

Kumho will be in with a good shout.

I suspect it won't be either M or B

Marbot · 13 Nov 2005, 00:55 (Ref:1459283)

I'd be putting money on Goodyear for a return,particularly if F1 gets its reputation sorted out in the U.S.
Bridgestone aren't nessersarily favourites for the job and Michelin appear not to be interested at all.
I'd like to see it go to a new company (other than Michelin or Bridgestone),so that no team gains an advantage.
Perhaps we'll see Michelin pulling out early (they have to give a years notice!).

TEAM78 · 13 Nov 2005, 01:44 (Ref:1459310)

I quite like tyre wars actually! its a pity there will only be one tyre manufacturer in the future.

SpawnyWhippet · 13 Nov 2005, 08:16 (Ref:1459422)

My moneys on Asiastar remoulds.

safc_fan89 · 13 Nov 2005, 09:38 (Ref:1459468)

I get the impression it will be Bridgestone because teams are trying their hardest to get bridgestone tyres, presumably because Michelin are leaving F1 in the near future. Whether that's after 2006 or after 2007 remains to be seen.

I'm not really bothered which tyre supplier is in F1, the racing is what maters, not the tyre manufacturer. As long as the manufacturer does a good job and provides decent tyres, I don't care which company supplies F1 tyres.

BootsOntheSide · 13 Nov 2005, 10:24 (Ref:1459496)

Whoever can produce satisfactory safe tyres the cheapest will ge tthe contract, adn it could easily be one of the smaller companies. There are legitimate tactical rweasons to go to Bridgestone in the short term for next season, although I think it's pretty sure that the contract won't go to Michelin.

Ginetta · 13 Nov 2005, 10:41 (Ref:1459509)

Tyre was in racing give the general public something special. And I believe that there sould be more not less manufacturers in F1

safc_fan89 · 13 Nov 2005, 11:37 (Ref:1459531)

In 1999 and 2000 when Bridgestone was the single tyre manufacturer, the championships were hard-fought and exciting. This shows that you can have good championships without a tyre war. If the FIA wants to keep speeds down, having a single tyre manufacturer is the best way. Remember that in 2001 the lap times reduced by 4 seconds because Michelin entered.

insideline · 13 Nov 2005, 13:16 (Ref:1459575)

1981 wwas a cracking season, 4 tyre manufacturers

maltafan · 13 Nov 2005, 14:20 (Ref:1459615)

Michelin already said that they will not be supplying the whole grid, so they will surely go out. BS have said nothing yet, but I read some time ago (cannot remember where) that the chance is to have a new tyre supplier. However, I think that tyre competition is healthy to F1.

Stargazer7 · 13 Nov 2005, 14:55 (Ref:1459639)

I also liked the tyre war in F1, it's been a whole new topic for discussion and contradiction. What I didn't like was when tyres played the major role for victory p.e Nurburgring 2005. In 2004 Bridgestone had the upper hand, in 2005 Michelin. Both years the gap was that big, that some teams capable of victories (p.e. Ferrari 2005) were restrained by the tyre war. That I didn't like...

I also prefered engines, drivers, or even aerodynamics to be far more important than tyres in F1. This has not changed...

esorniloc · 13 Nov 2005, 15:57 (Ref:1459673)

Its the end of FORMULA1 when they start specifying components. Where does it end? One engine, One chassis?

Formula 1 is a technical world and the more tyre manufacturers that are in F1 increases the competitiveness, not the other way around.

Marbot · 13 Nov 2005, 18:09 (Ref:1459759)

I'd prefer just one tyre supplier.Tyres have become too important in the combination that makes up an F1 car.

Ferrari this season probably had a decent enough car that was unfortunately prevented from showing its true potential simply because its tyres weren't as good as the Michelins.

We all like competition,i'd just prefer it if the tyres were a known constant.

I don't want to hear some team or another wittling on about how much better their car would perform if only they had decent tyres.

If we must have multiple tyre makers,why not let the teams choose which make of tyre they would prefer to use at each event.

Dutton · 13 Nov 2005, 18:41 (Ref:1459775)

Why not let them use different tyre brands at different points? Thus X company might end up specialising in qualifying tyres, whilst Y company does only races and Z company gives it a go at both.

The way I see it, the best option is to reduce it to one supplier or go completely the other way (multiple manufacturers and no restrictions on teams as to what they use when <except mixing different brands at the same point>).

Marbot · 13 Nov 2005, 18:55 (Ref:1459785)

My point being that at least there'll still be competition,the best tyres will be out on track while the other manufacturers play catch-up.At least it will be up to the teams to choose which tyre and if it's the wrong choice then it's the teams mistake and not the tyre manufacturer.

Dutton · 13 Nov 2005, 19:11 (Ref:1459796)

Absolutely, that was my point as well.

Snrub · 13 Nov 2005, 20:43 (Ref:1459868)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutton

What are the other tyre company relationships?

Michelin owns BF Goodridge and Uniroyal.

It costs a lot of money for a manufacturer to be involved in F1. I can't picture the smaller manufacturers having the resources to get involved. eg. the Korean companies (Kuhmo, Hanook, etc), Yokohama, Avon, Contenental, Toyo, Pirelli, etc.

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1459870)

Why couldn't Avon get involved?

They supplied F3000 with tyres for years.

If they were to be the sole supplier, they could easily do F1.

Ginetta · 13 Nov 2005, 20:47 (Ref:1459871)

They did in 81

Marbot · 13 Nov 2005, 23:51 (Ref:1459982)

They also supplied Minardi for a while at the end of 2004.

TEAM78 · 14 Nov 2005, 03:29 (Ref:1460034)

Avon are too small and the investment to get started to probably bankrupt them sadly. maybe they should throw the rule book out the window for just one year and let the engineers loose. hehe.

Kicking-back · 14 Nov 2005, 06:20 (Ref:1460082)

"Avon are too small"?

I say again - if it's a sole tyre supplier, it's no different to supplying F3000

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