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21 Jun 2007, 17:17 (Ref:1943513)
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1994 FiA Touring Car World Cup Grid.
After watching the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eFu...elated&search=) I was wondering, how many cars gridded up for this race? It's absolutely unreal!
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21 Jun 2007, 17:47 (Ref:1943532)
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This is the grid of 1995 World Cup:
http://www.supertouringregister.com/.../series/88.php Very impressive! 
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21 Jun 2007, 18:00 (Ref:1943539)
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1994 list.. 40 entries..
1 m.duez-bmw 318is 2 t.tassin-bmw 318is 3 a.menu-renault laguna 4 b.thuner-peugeot 405 mi16 5 v.bervid-bmw 318is 6 m.bychi-bmw 318is 7 m.bartels-nissan primera gte 8 f. biela-audi 80 quattro 9 m.oestreich-ford mondeo ghia 10 h.stuck-audi 80 quattro 11 j.winkelhock-bmw 318is 12 a.albacete-opel vectra gt 13 a.campos-alfa romeo 155ts 14 c.palau-ford mondeo ghia 15 l.perez sala-nissan primera gte 16 l.villamil-alfa romeo 155ts 17 a.cudini-opel vectra gt 18 p.gache-ford mondeo ghia 19 y.muller-bmw 318is 20 j.cleland-vauxhall cavalier gsi 21 r.gravett-ford mondeo ghia 22 a.reid-vauxhall cavalier gsi 23 s.soper-bmw 318is 24 p.watts-peugeot 405 mi16 25 s.modena-alfa romeo 155ts 26 e.pirro-audi 80 quattro 27 r.ravaglia-bmw 318is 28 a.tamburini-alfa romeo 155ts 29 g.tarquini-alfa romeo 155ts 30 j.lammers-volvo 850 glt 31 p.radisich-ford mondeo ghia 32 p.gunnar andersson-bmw 318is 33 s.borgudd-mazda xedos 6 34 j.cecotto-bmw 318is 35 s.van de linde-bmw 318is 40 j.bailey-toyota carina e gt 41 t.harvey-renault laguna 42 w.hoy-toyota carina e gt 43 d.leslie-renault laguna 44 m.neal-mazda 323 lantis 45 k.o'dor-nissan primera gte 46 r.rydell-volvo 850 glt |
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21 Jun 2007, 18:23 (Ref:1943559)
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Wow that was complete carnage. I looked at the grid lining up and thought, how on earth are they going to get round Redgate...turns out half of them didn't even get that far!
As for the 1995 grid, that's pretty damn impressive. I mean look at the quality lining up at the back of that grid, particularly the last five rows! Great range of cars too. |
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21 Jun 2007, 19:21 (Ref:1943611)
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Yep, those were the golden years of ST! Something like 10+ global ST championships, abeit some only had 4-5 car starting grids...
Peaking in '96 with something like 14 ST championships or series with ST classes! |
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21 Jun 2007, 19:24 (Ref:1943614)
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Anyone have a list of all ST series ver run? Either full ST serie or with an ST class in it?
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21 Jun 2007, 19:44 (Ref:1943631)
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21 Jun 2007, 20:40 (Ref:1943679)
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Yes, I'm perfectly aware of that great site, however, the list is nowhere near compleat on all ST series ever run, sadly.
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21 Jun 2007, 20:48 (Ref:1943687)
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Great site FIRE, got any more info on any of the 405 or 406 Peugeots?
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21 Jun 2007, 20:51 (Ref:1943691)
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Here's also some ST info:
http://www.motorsport.com/news/list.asp?O=C&K=TOURING |
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21 Jun 2007, 21:05 (Ref:1943701)
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Was Nissan at that time already part of Renault? (I think not, not until late 90s, early 00s?). And Volvo and Mazda part of Ford?
Why was ST so succesful at that time? Was it because there were more independent manufacturers? Formula 1 was not dominating like nowadays? |
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21 Jun 2007, 21:12 (Ref:1943711)
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22 Jun 2007, 18:26 (Ref:1944460)
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I wish i could have seen the ST era
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22 Jun 2007, 18:32 (Ref:1944470)
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We could start assembling the list here and then put it on Redshoes supertouring register later! Touring Car World Annual is definitely a good source of info! But from memory, here's what I recall. Please feel free to correct my dates or add to list. ASTC - ST series, then ST class (1995-02) BTCC - ST series. (1994-00) APTCC (Asia Pacific) then renamed SEATCZC (Southeast Asia Touring Car Zone Challenge) - ST class (1994-99) ETCC - ST series (99-01) FSTC (French ST championship) - ST series, then ST class (1994-98) ITC - (Italy) - ST series, then ST class, (1994-98) JTCC - (Japan) - ST series (1994-98) NATCC - North America ST series (1996-97) NTCC - (Nordic Touring Car Championship) - ST Class (1995-97) PTCC (Portugese) - ST class (1994-95) Belgian Pro Car - ST series, then ST class (1994-98) SATCC (South African) - (1994-97) ST series STCC - Swedish series (1995-00) RTCC (Russian Touring Car Championship) - ST class (1995-00) STW - German ST series (1994-00) Sud Am (south American) - ST series (1996-98) Last edited by kmchow; 22 Jun 2007 at 18:53. |
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That was the year that a Volvo and Renault etc cannoned off each other on the start?!! And then later round the lap Modena rammed Menu so hard he thought he was going to end up in Ashby?  I liked ST too, not at first because Grp A was my favourite category but it gotmmy attention because the racing was good and it attracted excellent drivers too. |
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22 Jun 2007, 18:59 (Ref:1944500)
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22 Jun 2007, 23:41 (Ref:1944664)
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kmchow: well yeah class 2 has to be considerd ST too, as log as it wasnt run inder GroupA class 2 that is (if you know what I mean).
BTW, STCC ran from 96 to 2002, STW ran from 94 to 99. But its a good list, exactly what I was looking for, hope we can get more additions to it, as I know a few are missing. |
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23 Jun 2007, 00:33 (Ref:1944680)
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ah yes!! ST before aerodymanics ruined it....
kiwi drive winning the world cup twice running  imho those were the heydays of touring car racing, nothing better before or since. |
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23 Jun 2007, 00:58 (Ref:1944694)
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You know, this makes me want a REALLY good Supertouring sim, too bad none exist. :\
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23 Jun 2007, 01:15 (Ref:1944700)
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codemasters BTCC ones were pretty good!
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23 Jun 2007, 01:17 (Ref:1944702)
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I have ToCA3, however, I haven't been able to find it in years, I WANT TO KNOCK OFF BODY PANELS!
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24 Jun 2007, 18:14 (Ref:1945626)
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the sweedish touring car game for the pc was petty darn good
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24 Jun 2007, 18:57 (Ref:1945662)
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Btw, do anyone have a link to the results of the World Cup races?
Or perhaps someone not afraid of typing knows it by heart. 
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