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Old 25 Sep 2003, 13:50 (Ref:729750)   #1
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Michaels mechanical reliability

Just looking on www.f1db.com , a very good site that has every statistic you could want (although it does list Michael as 2003 champion already :confused: )

Just looking through Michaels stats and it is now 36 races since he last had a mechanical failure!! (fuel pressure problem at Hockenheim 2001) Surely this must be some kind of record!

The way the Ferrari reliability is going, should he stay in F1 for another 3 seasons (2004 - 2006), he can expect only 2 more mechanical failures if recent seasons are anything to go by!
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 13:54 (Ref:729755)   #2
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That really is amazing. Reliability this year has been amzing in general considering the new parc ferme rules. Kind of suggests that they were doing more harm than good taking them apart before.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 13:57 (Ref:729756)   #3
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even though i am really not a MS fan, nor a ferrari fan (sorry people), i do have to say that that is a huge acheivement!! also it is actually quite scary. although it does make u wonder, y doesnt rubens have the same reliabilty? it also gives other teams something to aim for, tho it could be, to some xtent, luck, but i xpect mainly a really organised and hard working team!
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 14:05 (Ref:729766)   #4
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Ferrari reliability when comes to TGF is amazing.


But not quite the same with RB.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 14:20 (Ref:729771)   #5
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although it does make u wonder, y doesnt rubens have the same reliabilty?
I'd imagine that Rubens would get the development pieces that the team are still unsure of, knowing that if he is faster he can take points of TGF's rivals or ghet overtaken by TGF due to bodged puit stop, etc. If he claps out then it wouldn't affect TGF too much.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 15:22 (Ref:729820)   #6
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 15:31 (Ref:729831)   #7
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Haha...it doesn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to spring into action does it?

There are quite a few races whereby Michael's car run into mechanical problems, but thankfully not bad enough to retire. Canada 03 springs to mind doesn't it? He had brake difficulties which forced him to really back down his pace. And he's kind of lucky that his mechanical failures are often during testings.

Honestly, look at the way Ruben's suspension collapse at Hungary, i doubt Ferrari would risk "planning" such a failure at a time when they are hanging on to their WCC challenge. And yes, though its just a puncture at Hockenheim, Michael does have his share of tough luck in races.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 15:40 (Ref:729835)   #8
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Mr V, while I hope it's time for TGF to have two consecutive mechanical failures, I just wanted to say thanks for providing that site - it's awsome, especially now that all the good ones require payments.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 16:01 (Ref:729849)   #9
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I don't think its a conspiracy, all great drivers tend to be easier on equipment. Maybe TGF is just a little easier on the suspension and jolting it over the curbs. And if you look, Rubens hasn't been bad either, only 1 failure this year IIRC
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 16:35 (Ref:729885)   #10
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Michael's reliability record is staggering and I think it's probably the thing that kept him up there challenging all through his career and add that to his skill and intelligence and you have a prolific race winner and champion.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 16:56 (Ref:729908)   #11
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He's bloody lucky. Yes he had problems at Canada, but while Jacques had to retire with brake problems, Schumacher's problems were fair enough to keep on leading the race.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 17:15 (Ref:729921)   #12
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Well he's the #1, so I guess he has the better equipment. Not a conspiracy theory here, GT_R, but just a thought.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 19:15 (Ref:730033)   #13
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No Conspiracy, Schumi is also a trained mechanic, he may know a thing or two
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 20:58 (Ref:730142)   #14
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No Conspiracy, Schumi is also a trained mechanic, he may know a thing or two
Or three or four. He also has a brain 'in gear', shame about 'the rest' really.
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Old 25 Sep 2003, 21:19 (Ref:730173)   #15
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I think with next years engines rules there will be more breakdowns!
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Old 26 Sep 2003, 11:34 (Ref:730647)   #16
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At first, maybe. BNut within a few races, teams will ahve mroe reliable engiens whcih can last a weekend - probably at little cost to performance.

Also, we all said that about the changes for this season, especailly as they were imposed late in the day (meaning that teams didn't have much chance to drop innavtive-but-potentially-unreliable hardware), and things haven't really changed.
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Old 26 Sep 2003, 11:39 (Ref:730651)   #17
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Maybe another factor is that possibly TGF drives more smoothly than RB. Look at the difference between Villeneuve and Button.

But for sure, Michael gets the better car.
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Old 27 Sep 2003, 18:22 (Ref:732053)   #18
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Well...There we have it, A fuel Pressure problem, once again in Practice. I'm watching it on tape delay so I'm still stressed over wether they will make qualifying....wrote this after qualy started though
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Old 28 Sep 2003, 00:08 (Ref:732485)   #19
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OH NO

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Old 28 Sep 2003, 07:27 (Ref:732586)   #20
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here's a list of the retirements per driver in the last 10 years:


Rubens Barrichello 65
Eddie Irvine 61
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 59
Pedro Paulo Diniz 58
Jos Verstappen 57
Olivier Panis 54
David Coulthard 51
Jarno Trulli 49
Jean Alesi 47
Mika Salo 47
Giancarlo Fisichella 47
Jacques Villeneuve 47
Johnny Herbert 46
Mika Hakkinen 43
Ukyo Katayama 43
Ralf Schumacher 37
Pedro de la Rosa 36
Damon Hill 35
Michael Schumacher 29
Nick Heidfeld 25
Martin Brundle 21
Gerhard Berger 21
Jenson Button 21
Luca Badoer 20
Toranosuke Takagi 20
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Old 28 Sep 2003, 09:34 (Ref:732628)   #21
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sorry for my ignorance but what does TGF stand for?
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Old 28 Sep 2003, 09:36 (Ref:732629)   #22
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I think that we should qualify those stats with the number of failures over races run.
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sorry for my ignorance but what does TGF stand for?
Someone please put a sign up at the ten-tenths homepage explaining this term and end the questions from newbies! PLEASE!
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sorry for my ignorance but what does TGF stand for?
that German fellow(or just Michael Schumacher )

BTW: people at the Minardi message board call Ferrari TOIT (that other Italian team)
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