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23 Dec 2005, 15:33 (Ref:1489325) | #1 | ||
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Formula Libre - Do you know what it is?
For the younger folk out there, Formula Libre is "A free formula" for single seater racing cars.
A..... nything goes N..... o silly regulations G..... ood racing L..... ots of different cars E..... xciting single seater action S..... peed on a budget E..... very type of single seater is eligible Y..... oung or old cars - it doesn't matter If you have a single seater racing car you can race it in Formula Libre Need more competitive track time away from your regular championship? then Formula Libre is for you. Need more practice in a race environment before diving into the specific championship for your class? then Formula Libre is for you Just want some fun racing? then Formula Libre is for you Is a Jedi better than a Renault 1700 or 2 litre, or Vauxhall Lotus, or ARP F3, or Historic F3 or F2, or Monoposto 1200, 1600, 1800 or 2000, or Formula Four, or Zetec, or Duratec, or, or, or, the list is endless. Watch out for Formula Libre racing coming to an Anglesey Circuit near you soon. |
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23 Dec 2005, 15:43 (Ref:1489334) | #2 | ||
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I really hope that you open this up to single seaters of up to 3 ltr capacity as there are lots of old F3000 and late F2 cars knocking around with nowhere to race outside of big money euroboss.
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Your nice and shiny black car seems just the kind of tool to use in the upto 2000cc division. |
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23 Dec 2005, 18:10 (Ref:1489403) | #5 | ||
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we have libre over here aswell.great fun guessing how many laps its gonna taka an old f3000 with a holden v6 to lap a vee
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23 Dec 2005, 19:13 (Ref:1489436) | #6 | ||
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sounds like a good idea diz. I would be able to play in my new zetec F4
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23 Dec 2005, 19:25 (Ref:1489443) | #7 | ||
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Bring it to Mallory.
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23 Dec 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1489444) | #8 | ||
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Does formula libre have a dispensation to run at ride heights below 40mm?
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24 Dec 2005, 10:04 (Ref:1489584) | #10 | ||
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True Libre!
Formula Libre is NOT a single seater racing car 'formula' as there is no 'formula'!
In Formula Libre racing as I remember it at Oulton Park, Aintree, Longridge and Mallory Park there were Sports Racing Cars, Clubmens Cars and Special Saloons all battling it out with the single seaters. On the single seater front I can remember all of the following taking part: Formula One, Formula Two, Formula Atlantic, Formula Three, Formula 5000, Formula Super Vee, Formula Ford 2000, Formula Ford 1600, Hillclimb Specials, and Monoposto. In fact several competitors created Formula Libre cars that would have been inelligible for anything else! So to ensure you attract full grids make it a true open formula |
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24 Dec 2005, 10:39 (Ref:1489594) | #11 | ||
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Good point actually - the 'single seater' races at Lydden, and the Libre ones in Ireland, let in the likes of Clubmans cars, Radicals and so on as well. Will they be eligible?
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24 Dec 2005, 10:40 (Ref:1489595) | #12 | ||
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That was the problem with it years ago getting cars on the grid,it was great when the likes of Tony Trimmer in his F5000 was battling with Alo Lawler in his ex Prost F1 were both there but these two were way ahead of the rest.
Even though there was a vast number of cars that could be used the grids never really got out of the lower teens so the championship faded away! If it was too come back then its gonna need some serious backing to get the cars on the grid,even though i'd like to see a big banger libre championship back i still feel it won't get the support.....the Boss championship is one example its taken a lot of time to build but the grids still not full! |
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If on the other hand you do get good entries, and I personally hope you do, then you could also run a SPORTS LIBRE race to cater for the closed wheel cars! |
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1. Put on two classes, one for Sports Cars and one for Saloon Cars 2. Wait for the entries to come in 3. Decide what to do with 86 of them 4. Extract 29 Caterham types = 1 race 5. Stick the rest together and split them into faster and slower groups, 29 in one and 28 in the other. Faster Group TVR Tasmin 6600 TVR Tasmin 2000 Ginetta G20 1800 MG TF 1800 TVR Tuscan 4200 BMW E30 M3 DTM 2500 Proton 1800 Fiesta XR2 1600 Sierra Cosworth 2000 Porsche 911SC 2994 TVR Tasmin 2800 Ginetta G20 1800 TVR Tasmin 2792 BMW 325 2500 T Car 1600 BMW 325 2500 Ford RS2000 1997 BMW E36 M3 3000 Porsche GT2 3600 Porsche 924 1984 Fiesta XR2 1600 BMW 325i Sport 2494 Morgan Roadster 2967 Morgan Roadster 2967 Proton Ford Sierra Cosworth 2000 Proton 1800 Proton Ford RS2000 2000 Porsche 911SC BMW M6 3453 MG ZR190 1800 Slower Group Fiesta XR2 1600 Hillman Imp 998 Fiat Uno 1300 Ford Escort XR3i 1600 Fiat Punto 1242 Rover Metro Gti 1400 BMW Mini Cooper S 1600 Fiesta XR2 1600 MG Midget 1130 Peugeot 106 Xsi 1600 Peugeot 205 GTi 1600 Fiat Punto 1242 BMW Mini Cooper Club 1600 MG Metro 1293 Alfa Romeo 33 1700 Fiat Uno 1300 Fiat Uno 1300 Peugeot 205 Gti 1900 BMW Mini Cooper 1600 Fiat Punto 1242 Ford Fiesta XR2 1600 Triumph TR6 2498 Ford Fiesta XR2 1600 Fiesta XR2 1600 Sunbeam Imp 998 Hillman Imp 998 Singer Chamois 1040 Fiesta XR2 1600 Peugeot 106 Xsi 1600 Result = 3 full grids Whichever way you look at it, I'm trying. |
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Anyway, let's get back on topic to Single Seater Formula Libre now.
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Libre could be great fun and it would be interesting to see how well F3 cars go without air restrictors. I remember being down at Combe last season for a days testing and they were talking about a similar concept. Maybe now with CC racing Club they might accept a round or two, provided the cars can be kept under 108dB, which with modern silencing technology should be possible.
If this got off the ground I would be very tempted to buy an early F3000 car as then there would be somewhere to run it. Happy Holidays |
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I personally like the sound of it, my main concern would be having big cars ie even 2ltr cars are massive cars compared to the jedi, they wouldn't enen noticed if they touched one of us... especially at a track like anglesey!
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formula libre,,,, great class off racing in the early 70s,,here in ireland lots off different makes,,,made going to race meeting worthwhile???? now days all the cars look the same boring...................differance in speed meanr one had to keep on his toes while flagging,,and be aware of different classes mixed together????
where have these days gone,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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Any dates for next year yet? Is the planned March meeting an early season "one off" or will there be a few throughout the year? I would echo John Miller's plea to bring the idea to Mallory, too. Finally, remember that the BARC-SEC run a similar idea (with classes up to 2 litres, and including Clubmans cars) at Silverstone Stowe, Brands and Lydden throughout the year. Andy |
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Sports Libre
Steve, correct me but surely there is a differance between Formula Libra and Sports Libre. AFAIK, sports Libre is a class which caters for cars for which NO OTHER class exists. This is certainly so in the Sprint/hill-climb world. You would not be able to run a legal Formula Ford in sports libre class, unless of course you were amalgated because of lack of entries. RedT.
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more venues the better! echo the mallory!
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