Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Other Motorsports > Bike Racing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19 Sep 2003, 11:20 (Ref:724037)   #1
Winther
Racer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location:
Denmark
Posts: 298
Winther should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Suzuka scraped for next season.

And will first be avaible from 2005 again.
Winther is offline  
__________________
Sideways is always more fun.
Quote
Old 19 Sep 2003, 11:29 (Ref:724052)   #2
f1manoz
Veteran
 
f1manoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Australia
Lincolnshire, UK
Posts: 7,294
f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I've looked at a few sites but nothing up, where'd you hear this from?
f1manoz is offline  
__________________
Sunderland Til I Die!
Quote
Old 19 Sep 2003, 11:49 (Ref:724079)   #3
Barbazza
Racer
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
Yorkshire, England
Posts: 104
Barbazza should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridBarbazza should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The story is here. The FIM released a press release confirming it.
http://www.sportinglife.com/others/n...OTO_Japan.html
Barbazza is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Sep 2003, 12:13 (Ref:724111)   #4
Mark Mitchell
Veteran
 
Mark Mitchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
England
Staffordshire Moorlands
Posts: 6,124
Mark Mitchell should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMark Mitchell should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMark Mitchell should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMark Mitchell should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
www.bbc.co.uk

Last edited by Mark Mitchell; 19 Sep 2003 at 12:15.
Mark Mitchell is offline  
__________________
27 Years In Orange
Quote
Old 19 Sep 2003, 12:25 (Ref:724132)   #5
BootsOntheSide
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
England
Eastbourne, England
Posts: 13,000
BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Suzuka is a great racetrack for cars, but as it stands it's not safe for bikes, and Japan has lots of other great venues. Going there next year would jsut be too painful.
BootsOntheSide is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Sep 2003, 19:22 (Ref:724568)   #6
CleanTone
Racer
 
CleanTone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Romania
Colentina
Posts: 403
CleanTone should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Great great track. Too bad that it is so narrow for cars and so unsafe for bikes. And I'm afraid it is not possible for major improvements to take place
CleanTone is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Sep 2003, 01:40 (Ref:724769)   #7
racer69
Veteran
 
racer69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Australia
Sydney, Australia
Posts: 10,043
racer69 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridracer69 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
What a joke, the track is fine.

Another overreaction to what was a horrible incident, but this is motorsport.
racer69 is offline  
__________________
"The Great Race"
22 November 1960 - 21 July 1999
Quote
Old 20 Sep 2003, 03:51 (Ref:724786)   #8
f1manoz
Veteran
 
f1manoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Australia
Lincolnshire, UK
Posts: 7,294
f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Actually, racer, most of the riders expressed concern about track safety this year. With the speed of the bikes continuing to increase, many tracks deemed safe even five years ago can now be considered unsafe.

There are a few rather dangerous places I can think of right now:

The sweeper down to the Spoon Curve where the barrier is right on the track

The barrier into the chicane where Kato lost his life

The sweepers behind the pits where once again the barrier comes very close to the track at stages

Suzuka is a wonderful, challenging track, and the only thing that does need altering is to move the barriers back. Then it should be fine.
f1manoz is offline  
__________________
Sunderland Til I Die!
Quote
Old 22 Sep 2003, 11:15 (Ref:726249)   #9
elephino
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location:
Sydney, Australia
Posts: 2,058
elephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridelephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Still sucks that it's been removed.
elephino is offline  
Quote
Old 24 Sep 2003, 08:07 (Ref:728445)   #10
gomick
Race Official
Veteran
 
gomick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Australia
Gobur 3719...
Posts: 10,264
gomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
its a great track - but it is boring , i certainly wont miss it, hopefully f1 can follow the moto gp lead

Last edited by gomick; 24 Sep 2003 at 08:10.
gomick is offline  
Quote
Old 25 Sep 2003, 10:48 (Ref:729582)   #11
elephino
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location:
Sydney, Australia
Posts: 2,058
elephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridelephino should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Boring? No such thing. There are boring races, not boring tracks.
elephino is offline  
Quote
Old 25 Sep 2003, 13:24 (Ref:729722)   #12
racer69
Veteran
 
racer69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Australia
Sydney, Australia
Posts: 10,043
racer69 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridracer69 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Suzuka is more boring than Motegi???
racer69 is offline  
__________________
"The Great Race"
22 November 1960 - 21 July 1999
Quote
Old 26 Sep 2003, 06:04 (Ref:730441)   #13
TheMan
Racer
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location:
Australia
Posts: 474
TheMan has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
We have just had the same problem down here in Australia with the removal of Phillip Island GP circuit from our V8 Supercar series. As most of you probably know The Island is an awesome race track and certainly one of the fastest in Australia. But unfortunately recently a couple of car drivers have died there and therefore being taken off the calender. The track is deemed safe for bikes though and club car racing will still continue there. My point is that all circuits in the world be them slow circuits or fast, face an uphill battle to keep tracks safe each year as development of motorsport continues. The speeds of the bikes and cars increase each year and circuits cannot keep up. Maybe rather than kick circuits off the calender we look at slowing the cars/ bikes down to make them safer. remember that without the race circuits we have no racing, and most circuits cannot afford the money to keep upgrading safety. There would be scarce few that actually run at a profit.
TheMan is offline  
__________________
"And to all those who oppose, Hmm well"
Guns n Roses
Quote
Old 26 Sep 2003, 07:39 (Ref:730493)   #14
asha
Veteran
 
asha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location:
Darlinghurst (Sydney) NSW
Posts: 920
asha should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Suzuka is a great track, and it is not on the calander next year for the only reason that track alterations wont be finished in time.
From memory, there were more changes planned to the circult before katos horrible crash
asha is offline  
Quote
Old 26 Sep 2003, 21:01 (Ref:731362)   #15
chunder
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
England
Stevenage
Posts: 8,298
chunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
It amazes me sometimes. These guys are doing a sport and they know the risks. Why do we have to have such massive upheaval when someone dies. No one has been killed at Suzuka before if I remember. These guys know what they are doing so surely it is up to the people who make the tracks to not sanitise them, just make the run off bigger in certain areas.
Can't believe about Phillip Island, can understand the concern, but again these guys are paid silly money to do this and the whoe point is man against machine and that stuff.
I hope GP doesn't get all silly like F1 did and ruin all the tracks. Watching F1 round places like Hockenheim now is so ****, Imagine GP round Monaco! Will never happen but just picture it!!
chunder is offline  
Quote
Old 29 Sep 2003, 01:30 (Ref:733427)   #16
Schummy
Subscriber
Veteran
 
Schummy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location:
Somewhere near 2nd Lagrangian point
Posts: 3,281
Schummy has a real shot at the podium!Schummy has a real shot at the podium!Schummy has a real shot at the podium!Schummy has a real shot at the podium!Schummy has a real shot at the podium!
I suppose if they put some soft padding on some exposed walls or barriers the safety will increase. I don't think it is always needed a separation of barriers from tracks, for example in straight zones (i.e. Kato's fatal place), because the impact angle is shallow. There, a "softening" can be sufficient.

I can see a lot of circuit with solid barriers near the track (almost every grand circuit in the start line straight, for example). Shallowness of angle brings safety as oval experience teach us. A head-on accident is very dangerous in terms of G desacceleration (unfamous Monaco chicane is a example). In CART, Gonzalo Rodriguez(sp?) died because a head-on accident against a barrier and Greg Moore died against a far placed wall in the infield, with a violent angle.

Suzuka is a great circuit, safety must be increased, but overreaction should be avoided, IMHO.
Schummy is offline  
Quote
Old 29 Sep 2003, 08:25 (Ref:733720)   #17
asha
Veteran
 
asha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location:
Darlinghurst (Sydney) NSW
Posts: 920
asha should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
the problem is suzuka is that the edges of track are right on the edges of the owned land. They have being trying (unsuccessfully) to buy sections of land all around the circult
asha is offline  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suzuka LYM Formula One 17 29 Sep 2006 14:23
Where would the V8's go if Shanghai is scraped? Razor Australasian Touring Cars. 19 22 Jan 2006 22:40
Digital TV Coverage Scraped (all merged) Super Tourer Formula One 24 13 Dec 2002 23:43
Which circuit is better for hosting the last race in a season - Suzuka or Sepang? Yoong Montoya Formula One 8 17 Aug 2002 09:26
Suzuka 8Hr elephino Bike Racing 5 3 Aug 2000 12:35


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:54.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.