BTCC Rd 16,17,18 Snetterton

porsche962fan · 25 Jul 2016, 13:44 (Ref:3661075)

both Dynamics drivers moan about straight line speed

After this round boost readjustments are done, so Gow must really give them more boost unless he wants a WSR to get the titles before Brands final

skells22 · 25 Jul 2016, 20:51 (Ref:3661183)

and the break is over for BTCC as its back to action (ps thank you porsche962fan for starting this thread)

thlbtcc · 26 Jul 2016, 08:32 (Ref:3661245)

Shedden my tip for Race 1 win. Less weight = more speed.

850Estate · 26 Jul 2016, 11:08 (Ref:3661274)

Michael Caine in for Chris Smiley at Hard

http://www.btcc.net/2016/07/26/micha...btcc-comeback/

My pre-season prediction of Team Hard switching drivers at least once has came to fruition

mark_l · 26 Jul 2016, 11:30 (Ref:3661277)

The revolving door at Team Hard has started spinning, who will be next in/out?

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S griffin · 26 Jul 2016, 13:44 (Ref:3661293)

Didn't realise it was on this weekend, usually it's August they come back from the summer break. Good to see Caine back, would be nice to if he had a full season to show what he can do

porsche962fan · 27 Jul 2016, 09:08 (Ref:3661424)

Dan Lloyd bows out of the series FOR NOW ,a real shame

Eurotech back to a 2 car team this weekend

S griffin · 27 Jul 2016, 11:29 (Ref:3661442)

Anyone know the reason why? Will their be yet another replacement for that entry?

Mark0994 · 27 Jul 2016, 11:43 (Ref:3661451)

The funding problems
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...urotech-drive/
This is becoming so stupid. Every event there are drivers who don't have funds.
Tja said on BTCC 2017 that you need 700.000 Euros for two cars.
In TCR International you can run around the world with three cars for 500.000...

Sodemo · 27 Jul 2016, 12:24 (Ref:3661458)

TCR is the future (imo).

thlbtcc · 27 Jul 2016, 14:21 (Ref:3661468)

Quote:

Originally Posted by S griffin

Anyone know the reason why? Will their be yet another replacement for that entry?

No replacement.

thlbtcc · 27 Jul 2016, 14:21 (Ref:3661469)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 850Estate

Michael Caine in for Chris Smiley at Hard

http://www.btcc.net/2016/07/26/micha...btcc-comeback/

My pre-season prediction of Team Hard switching drivers at least once has came to fruition

Great to see Caine back in the BTCC until the end of 2016. He can pedal.

thlbtcc · 27 Jul 2016, 14:23 (Ref:3661470)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark0994

The funding problems
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...urotech-drive/
Every event there are drivers who don't have funds.
In TCR International you can run around the world with three cars for 500.000...

2 points.

1. Every event?

2. How many drivers have been in the TCR International series this year?

People who live in glass houses.....

Mark0994 · 27 Jul 2016, 14:47 (Ref:3661472)

1. Here are Lloyd and Smiley for this one and there are every events talk about someone don't have money for something. Like Welch don't have for RML kit.
2. How many drivers we had in second season of BTCC?

Tja · 27 Jul 2016, 14:50 (Ref:3661473)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark0994

The funding problems
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...urotech-drive/
This is becoming so stupid. Every event there are drivers who don't have funds.
Tja said on BTCC 2017 that you need 700.000 Euros for two cars.
In TCR International you can run around the world with three cars for 500.000...

Those weren't accurate figures, just a rough guess.
Costs are still high though, car prizes are capped at 200.000£ without engine as far as I know. No idea how that's divided over the 5 years or so that they're used. And of course if you build your own cars, that prize may well be higher, then there's development costs, actual running costs etc.
While costs are high, the variety of competitive cars is huge and 30 cars are still a very good grid. TCR doesn't have that variety yet, only SEAT Sport, Kissling (which isn't ready yet) and JAS are actually capable of producing a significant number of cars for teams to buy and prizes have already gone up a bit. The BTCC is in a pretty comfortable situation at the moment as it can watch how TCR develops. Even if it lost another five cars, the grid would still look alright.

A shame to lose Lloyd, he was really impressive. Have to admit, I didn't notice Smiley too much. Hard to impress in an average car though.

Mark0994 · 27 Jul 2016, 14:53 (Ref:3661474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tja

Those weren't accurate figures, just a rough guess.
Costs are still high though, car prizes are capped at 200.000£ without engine as far as I know. No idea how that's divided over the 5 years or so that they're used. And of course if you build your own cars, that prize may well be higher, then there's development costs, actual running costs etc.
While costs are high, the variety of competitive cars is huge and 30 cars are still a very good grid. TCR doesn't have that variety yet, only SEAT Sport, Kissling (which isn't ready yet) and JAS are actually capable to produce a significant number of cars for teams to buy and prizes have already gone up a bit. The BTCC is in a pretty comfortable situation at the moment as it can watch how TCR develops. Even if it lost another five cars, the grid would still look alright.

A shame to lose Epps and Lloyd, they both did well in the cars they had.

I know. TCR is only in it's second season. They will have more cars in future but TCR main thing is to make cars to be cheap and run in many championships. There are 12 championships using TCR spec cars. Where would people from Russia or Portugal find that kind of money to run 10 NGTC cars?

850Estate · 27 Jul 2016, 14:54 (Ref:3661475)

That's a damn shame about Lloyd, he was putting in some majorly impressive showings - someone else can work it out, but for the three events he competed in he must've been close to the highest points total out of any of the Honda drivers?

thlbtcc · 27 Jul 2016, 15:57 (Ref:3661487)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark0994

1. Here are Lloyd and Smiley for this one and there are every events talk about someone don't have money for something. Like Welch don't have for RML kit.
2. How many drivers we had in second season of BTCC?

3 examples is not every round, so your first post was greatly exaggerated. Welch is also on the grid still.

1987 was a long time ago.

You have a semblance of a point.

thlbtcc · 27 Jul 2016, 15:58 (Ref:3661488)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 850Estate

That's a damn shame about Lloyd, he was putting in some majorly impressive showings - someone else can work it out, but for the three events he competed in he must've been close to the highest points total out of any of the Honda drivers?

Gutted. He's had amazing pace.

S griffin · 28 Jul 2016, 10:16 (Ref:3661590)

Yeah, I just hope someone with sense has seen what he has done and snaps him up for next year

peebee2 · 28 Jul 2016, 10:22 (Ref:3661591)

Quote:

Originally Posted by S griffin

Yeah, I just hope someone with sense has seen what he has done and snaps him up for next year

Seriously, do you really think there is a single car in BTCC where the driver doesn't bring a budget??

Racing Harz · 28 Jul 2016, 11:58 (Ref:3661606)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

Seriously, do you really think there is a single car in BTCC where the driver doesn't bring a budget??

Worksteams?

thlbtcc · 28 Jul 2016, 13:06 (Ref:3661621)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

Seriously, do you really think there is a single car in BTCC where the driver doesn't bring a budget??

He could mean sponsors too I suppose.

peebee2 · 28 Jul 2016, 13:12 (Ref:3661625)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing Harz

Worksteams?

Real works teams? Lol

BtccLee · 28 Jul 2016, 19:50 (Ref:3661700)

Hold-up... There hasn't been this much young talent on a BTCC grid for many a year. Losing Lloyd is a big shame as he'd demonstrated big promise, but he was a late addition to a grid stacked with young talent. Smiley's move to Clios is good for his momentum and Caine coming back is the sign of any good BTCC season imo. Lloyd will be back next year, I have no doubt.

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