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25 Jan 2004, 12:49 (Ref:849949)
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F1's most controvertial moment!
yes... yes... Japan 89, Japan 90 ... FOCA VS FISA.. anything.. what was the most controvertial moment in F1?
can be anything from an incident in a race to a comment made by a driver to a administration battle like FOCA VS FISA. or a drivers departure from a team.... Come on discuss!!discuss! discuss! (BTW plz... keep within the limits no bashing just disuss   )
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25 Jan 2004, 13:02 (Ref:849961)
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 The BTW is very good advice. Anyway my suggestions: All of 1982 (FISA/FOCA, and more), followed by 1976 (so much court action and bad will - still Niki and James were friends throughout). Some of the later things that get mentioned here all the time pale into insignificance compared to some of the happenings in these years. However the reactions tended to be more considered and left in perspective. Presumably due to the level of (particular kind of) media interest being less. Last edited by Adam43; 25 Jan 2004 at 13:03. |
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25 Jan 2004, 13:18 (Ref:849967)
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Anything with the name 'Jean-Marie Ballestre' in it.
 Japan 1989 to be precise... |
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25 Jan 2004, 13:28 (Ref:849977)
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Japan 1989/Adelaide 1994 I think.
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25 Jan 2004, 13:32 (Ref:849980)
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Based on the longevity of the bitterness, I'd go with San Marino '82.
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25 Jan 2004, 13:34 (Ref:849981)
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Well, could be japan 89/90, Adelaide 94 or jerez 97. But for me, it would have to be Austria 2002.
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25 Jan 2004, 13:48 (Ref:849991)
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25 Jan 2004, 14:02 (Ref:849998)
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The fighting of FOCA VS FISA and the turbulent growth of F1 seem to "outshine" all others...
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25 Jan 2004, 15:08 (Ref:850038)
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Though perhaps Austria 2002, simply because of the greater general attention to F1.
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25 Jan 2004, 15:15 (Ref:850042)
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I would go for the A1 ring 2002 as well. The following Monday all the new papers where filled with F1 for all the wrong reasons.
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25 Jan 2004, 15:49 (Ref:850056)
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though Austria 2002 hung a cloud over F1... i'll go with Suzuka 89! this is for the simple reason that it cost Senna a shot at the WDC... even if Barrichello won in Austria he really had no chance of winning the title... whereas in 89 Senna could have won and may have won the title.. so basically the wrong man may have been crowned the 89 WDC!
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25 Jan 2004, 16:45 (Ref:850083)
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I'd go with Adelaide '94 & the collision between Schumacher & Hill.
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25 Jan 2004, 17:02 (Ref:850099)
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I am gonna go out on a limb and mention the court issues with Frank Williams etc. after the death of Senna...I just think it was such a big deal and continues to show itself and different variations today with the controversy over the new EU rules
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25 Jan 2004, 17:10 (Ref:850102)
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I'm a Senna fan so for me its got to be Japan 89 and Balestre. Somehow Balestre had the balls to go to the Brasilian GP at the start of 1990.... makes you wonder if he had any common sense at all!
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25 Jan 2004, 19:42 (Ref:850188)
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Austria 2002, because to me that seemed to do the most damage to the sports credibility.
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25 Jan 2004, 20:26 (Ref:850213)
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Japan 1989 was the most controversial moment in F1 history. The fallout lasted for absolutely ages.
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25 Jan 2004, 20:36 (Ref:850225)
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the day that team lotus showed up in its "GOLD LEAF TEAM LOTUS" colors.....f1 changed forever after that and it caused a wee bit of controversy at the time......
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25 Jan 2004, 20:51 (Ref:850239)
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Austria 2002 and the fact the Ferrari team tried to "engineer" a result at Indy as well.
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25 Jan 2004, 21:42 (Ref:850292)
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How come no one has mentioned Imola 1994? Senna and Ratzenberger dead and Barrichello badly injured in one weekend!
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25 Jan 2004, 21:55 (Ref:850312)
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It wasn't "controversial". It was tragic.
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25 Jan 2004, 22:56 (Ref:850372)
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Oh right so "controversial" means an incident without death or injury? Sorry about that. It's just that Imola 1994 created 100 times more controversy than, say, Adelaide 1994. |
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25 Jan 2004, 23:12 (Ref:850388)
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Schumacher's black flag Brit GP 1994 was pretty blatant, but then again so was his start in the previous weekend's French GP!
Nowhere near as bad as Jean Marie Balestre's bias in favour of Prost in Japan 1989(or anything else he could do to help the French). His decision to force Senna to start from the dirty side of the track in 1990 led to the most controversial piece of driving I've ever seen in F1. One controversy about which I know little detail is what exactly went wrong with Scumacher's car before he drove into Villeneuve, he was definitely struggling, much more than just tyre trouble.....anyone know more? |
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25 Jan 2004, 23:31 (Ref:850401)
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I agree withg Yoong and thats why I mentioned it earlier, the court case and the fallout from it can be seen today with the EU problems and F1 further moving out of Europe
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Controversy: A dispute, especially a public one, between sides holding opposing views. Everyone had the same views about Imola 1994. Everyone thought it was awful. Even (all) the aftermath wasn't that controversial. No one argued (strongly) about the changes made, everyone accepted it. Making it not controversial by definition. It has caused more talk about F1 than the other aspects, but not controvesy. It was also one of the most significant moments. However I am pretty sure it isn't what the thread was started about either. The court case that resulted has had some controversy, yes, but the actual weekend? However again the controvesy with the court case isn't great - it is more that the implications for racing in Italy (and Europe) are huge. Last edited by Adam43; 25 Jan 2004 at 23:58. |
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26 Jan 2004, 09:21 (Ref:850728)
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Adelaide '94, because it showed TGF as....well you know what i think.
Jerez '97, becasue it proved that TGF was a....same as above. But i think like many above, that Austria 2002 was the most controvertial moment, in the past many drivers have taken each other off, but to make one of your drivers slow down on the home strait on the last lap was appauling and beyond redemption. |
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