2018 TCR UK

[Mark0994]

http://tcr-series.com/index.php/news...ing-for-the-uk
TCR UK is a go

[850Estate]

Originally Posted by Mark0994

http://tcr-series.com/index.php/news...ing-for-the-uk
TCR UK is a go

Be interested to see how this works. If they position it as somewhere between VW Racing Cup and BTCC then they could be onto a decent winner, but that would put them in direct competition with things like the Clio Cup, which already benefits from being on the TOCA package and all the things that come with that.

Would be good to see some of the talented guys without the massive BTCC budgets get a chance in it though, especially if it gets a decent media package, and comes with some other good Championships.

I shall watch with interest.

[S griffin]

Can it succeed where SCV8 and T1 failed? Personally it would be a good feeder to the BTCC, like a National Saloon Championship

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

It is going to be run by the BRSCC. Personally I think it would be a fine addition to the BGT/F3 package but the Minis and VWs are already there. I don't see how else it will get the attention it would want and need to succeed. BRDC F4 eventually had to hook up with BGT...

[NaBUru38]

TCR won't replace VW Fun Cup.

For starter, TCR is front-wheel drive and the Fun Cup is rear-wheel drive. Also the power-to-weight ratio is very different.

[Matt]

Neither of those things have any bearing on whether something will replace the other.

STCC in 2016 was Mid-engine, RWD, lightweight silhouette cars.

STCC in 2017 is TCR-spec.

[Rob877]

Hmmmm, not really sure on this one. I like the TCR concept, but I'm undecided on whether or not it's the right time to be introduced in to the UK motorsport marketplace. It's not going to rival BTCC without a lot of investment and ground work being done. There are already a number if feeder series to BTCC that do a good job at a lower cost, with the jump from Clios or Minis up to BTCC seeming to be relatively easy provided you're a decent driver. We have a pretty good thing going here in the UK (IMO, of course), I would really hate to see it spoiled.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

TCR won't replace VW Fun Cup.

For starter, TCR is front-wheel drive and the Fun Cup is rear-wheel drive. Also the power-to-weight ratio is very different.

I don't think anyone has mentioned VW Fun Cup. You may have seen mention of VW Racing Cup, which is a completely different thing.

Fun Cup is a multi-driver enduro series using space-frame Beetle lookalikes.
Racing cup is a UK series using Golfs, Scirrocos, etc - www.vwracingcup.co.uk

I'm expecting TCR UK to be pitched around the level of of the VW Racing Cup. I've seen many comments elsewhere from people saying it won't rival BTCC in terms of TV coverage and support - I don't think it's in any way attempting to be a BTCC replacement

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Rob877

Hmmmm, not really sure on this one. I like the TCR concept, but I'm undecided on whether or not it's the right time to be introduced in to the UK motorsport marketplace. It's not going to rival BTCC without a lot of investment and ground work being done. There are already a number if feeder series to BTCC that do a good job at a lower cost, with the jump from Clios or Minis up to BTCC seeming to be relatively easy provided you're a decent driver. We have a pretty good thing going here in the UK (IMO, of course), I would really hate to see it spoiled.

I agree and all it will do is harm series like Mini, VW, Clio cup etc.
it's not needed in this country

[MissClarrpz]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I don't think it's in any way attempting to be a BTCC replacement

For the time being

[FIRE]

Not convinced there's need for this series but have to admit looking forward to see how this develops.

Originally Posted by S griffin

Can it succeed where SCV8 and T1 failed? Personally it would be a good feeder to the BTCC, like a National Saloon Championship

In contrast to these series TCR cars exist already.
Less risky to invest in TCR because you can race the cars elsewhere.

[Rob877]

Originally Posted by MissClarrpz

For the time being

For what it's worth, I think that would be an absolute disaster. The last thing British motorsport needs is a power struggle at the top. We need to have a definitive ladder where everyone works together, there just isn't enough money to go messing around try to shoehorn a load of series in to one country. Sometimes, less is more.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Rob877

For what it's worth, I think that would be an absolute disaster. The last thing British motorsport needs is a power struggle at the top. We need to have a definitive ladder where everyone works together, there just isn't enough money to go messing around try to shoehorn a load of series in to one country. Sometimes, less is more.

won't be a power struggle against BTCC at all, but it sure will be power struggle against Clio, Mini, VW cup etc.

[chunterer]

From what i've seen of TCR it's very much BTCC level.

The cars look and sound the same for starters?

Surely there's only room for one of these on the calendar.

[peebee2]

Maybe fairer than BTCC??

[tux]

I can see this being very much like the LMP3 Cup that MSVR launched this year.

[Cinghio44]

TCR Uk will not damage the Btcc in the short term but in future it could be a threat. I have read somewhere that the budget for a BTCC season is quite high. Is it true?

[Akrapovic]

Looking forward to it. Can it come to Knockhill please? We don't even get British GT up here any more.

[pimmy]

Britain doesn't need this series. I'll still follow it though.

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by redshoes

I don't think anyone has mentioned VW Fun Cup. You may have seen mention of VW Racing Cup, which is a completely different thing.

Fun Cup is a multi-driver enduro series using space-frame Beetle lookalikes.
Racing cup is a UK series using Golfs, Scirrocos, etc -

Oops, sorry

[andy97]

TCR exists as a world wide series with manufacturer support, with many cars available both new and second hand. Personally I think it's important the UK has a series that has that world wide commonality rather than the cul de sac that is BTCC.

I hope that it is successful.

[850Estate]

Just thinking how many people current own a TCR spec car in the UK? Off the top of my head:

Stewart Lines (Leon)
Finlay Crocker (Civic)
Andrew Morrison (Leon)

[Sodemo]

Purely from a looks point of view, I think TCR cars are more attractive than the NGTC cars the BTCC use. They have wheels that actually fit the arches, the rear wings are more elegant and the overall body kits don't look quite as plasticy.

The TCR cars also don't appear to roll around quite so much when cornering which has long been a pet hate of mine of the current BTCC cars.

I hope that a TCR series is a success.

[Akrapovic]

They do look nicer but I wish there were more saloons with proper boots. The A3 is the nicest one because of that IMO.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by 850Estate

Just thinking how many people current own a TCR spec car in the UK? Off the top of my head:

Stewart Lines (Leon)
Finlay Crocker (Civic)
Andrew Morrison (Leon)

There are also a few British run TCR cars in the Creventic 24h series... not sure if any of those would be interested in doing sprint races at home, though.