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Old 14 Jul 2017, 06:24 (Ref:3751083)   #1
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British Grand Prix 2017: Grand Prix Weekend Thread
There are uneasy times for the British Grand Prix as we head to Silverstone for Round 10 of 20 in this year's championship.

Although the circuit was reprofiled a few years ago, it remains one of the favourites for many drivers, with a lot of quick corners presenting them with an exciting challenge.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 09:38 (Ref:3751105)   #2
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 10:51 (Ref:3751120)   #3
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Fred gets yet another penalty for Honda change, although it's only a five place, so hopefully he can repeat the FP1 form, as McLaren are looking better this weekend
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 10:58 (Ref:3751123)   #4
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I am surprised this hasn't been discussed yet...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/t...ish-gp-930103/

What was the expected outcome of not following a safety related directive during scrutineering?

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Edit: As expected... the team was on the loosing end of this disagreement...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/n...-rosso-930354/
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 13:59 (Ref:3751171)   #5
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good job by Palmer today, comfortably under 1 sec off Hulk's pace.
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good job by Palmer today, comfortably under 1 sec off Hulk's pace.
Do I detect tongue in cheek?
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I am surprised this hasn't been discussed yet...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/t...ish-gp-930103/

What was the expected outcome of not following a safety related directive during scrutineering?

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Edit: As expected... the team was on the loosing end of this disagreement...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/n...-rosso-930354/
so yeah started out as a bad story for STR but it in the end it doesnt seem like they did anything intentionally wrong,...the team and their tether manu both confirmed that it was within parameters, knots and all, and just a bit of a used part but in the end STR made a voluntary choice to change it.

storm in a teacup?
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so yeah started out as a bad story for STR but it in the end it doesnt seem like they did anything intentionally wrong,...the team and their tether manu both confirmed that it was within parameters, knots and all, and just a bit of a used part but in the end STR made a voluntary choice to change it.

storm in a teacup?
It's minor drama, but fully and easily avoidable by Toro Rosso.

I tend to believe that the entire outcome was a small bit of face saving effort on everyone's part. But in the end, the stewards decision said they can't use the existing tether and that it must be changed... and it was. I think the only thing in Toro Rosso's favor is that they provided evidence that the knots were OK.

The real question is why did Toro Rosso think they could just ignore the directions from the scrutineers or that it would play out in their favor? I expect the correct course of action would have been...

1. Change the tether after the issue was brought up during scrutineering.
2. Then provide evidence to clarify what can/can't be used next time to avoid dispute.

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Lewis has won the British GP four times, wining the last three races in a row. So, can he use to his advantage and take the fight back to Vettel, who has won here once in 2009?
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Well Bottas now has a gearbox change penalty........which is convenient...........
Was he too fast today...................
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 19:53 (Ref:3751264)   #12
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Yeah might have less to do with Lewis, more to do with taking the penalty somewhere you can make up lost positions "easily".
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Looking forward to the British Grand Prix. I know Silverstone has a few problems at the moment, but hope they can work them out.

What will happen with the Vettel and Hamilton fight?
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don't go making sensible comments like that around the conspiracy theorists, they'll come after you with their pitchforks
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Watching the free Practice today I was in absolute awe of the the pace of the cars - Copse flat out!

I did comment to my mate that we hadn't done so bad last month as our race pace was about the same time that the leaders were clocking in FP2 in race simulation ................then he pointed out that we were on the International circuit which is only a shade over half the distance of the GP circuit........
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It's gotten worse for Fred, he's now got a 30 place grid penalty. Once again makes a mockery of qualifying. Honda are a disgrace to F1
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This is getting ridiculous.....ly exciting!!

Hopefully see some great overtaking from VB, FA and DR.



Or is this just RBR making sure MV has a better race than DR for once??
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The best way for a team to avoid issuing team orders, to two drivers in with a shout for the championship, is to change their gearbox's. Don't think Hamilton will be a happy bunny if he were to lose the title again because of reliability issues.He was paranoid enough last year about his car.......why did he keep getting problems and Rosberg didn't......he kept reminding everyone......a lot.

We haven't seen Hamilton and Bottas get "up close and personal" yet and there was every chance it could happen at Silverstone. I think the Mercs will have an advantage over Ferrari this weekend so maybe they want to ensure Hamilton's reliability paranoia doesn't start to surface.If Hamilton has car issues this year,
then I imagine Bottas will have a similar number too.
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Hamilton is such a brat. He had some goodwill on his side being on the right side of the vettel incident. Then he skips the fan show thing they put on. Then nbcsn played his interviews from last year about wanting to get close to the fans and feed off their energy and how great it is. He's quite the phony.
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Am I the only person getting really fed up with the 'lets favour Hamilton' conspiracy theories......? Jeez.
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Perfect strategy.....

Enjoyed the crowds reaction, there's a lot of love for Fred.....
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It's gotten worse for Fred, he's now got a 30 place grid penalty. Once again makes a mockery of qualifying. Honda are a disgrace to F1
I don't think disgrace is the right word. It implies they have done something dishonorable, which they haven't.
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I don't think disgrace is the right word. It implies they have done something dishonorable, which they haven't.
Exactly. The word disgrace should only be used when Vettel is the subject line.
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Possibly, .
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