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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:10 (Ref:2044657)   #1
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Lewis under investigation again!
He just can't stay out of trouble it seems! This time he was deemed to have used two sets of wets during the first free practice. Button and Sato are in the dock for this too.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63425

10 place penalty then?
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:14 (Ref:2044660)   #2
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Isn't this the kind of basic thing that the teams ought to know about?
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:17 (Ref:2044665)   #3
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Oh dear. Basic error if true but it happens i suppose. Look at Massa and the no fuel at Hungary.
I didn't know this rule existed BTW. Is this the reason Fernando didn't run at all in Free 1. To save his tyres for Free 2.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:25 (Ref:2044675)   #4
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It'll be a conspiracy to some people whatever the outcome is of this investigation
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:39 (Ref:2044687)   #5
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SpeedTV is now reporting that Hamilton's race engineer said they used one set of wets and one set of inters in P1.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:40 (Ref:2044688)   #6
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Surely this error must lay with McLaren and as they can't earn any championship points as a team then what's the point in potentially moving Hamilton back on the grid?
Fine McLaren perhaps but leave the driver alone.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:41 (Ref:2044690)   #7
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Speed TV are reporting on air that Lewis' engineer claims Lewis used one set of extreme wets and one set of intermediates - not two sets of extreme wets. If true he should escape sanction as you are not allowed to use two of the same tyre type.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:43 (Ref:2044691)   #8
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However, if the report is incorrect and the team messed up the tire allocation, it should be Lewis leaving McLaren, not Alonso.

Lewis needs to find a team that understands tires.

He'll be driving for Bridgestone next season.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:44 (Ref:2044693)   #9
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Surely this error must lay with McLaren and as they can't earn any championship points as a team then what's the point in potentially moving Hamilton back on the grid?
Fine McLaren perhaps but leave the driver alone.
Nice try but it's not about fault, it's about advantage.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:47 (Ref:2044698)   #10
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A 5 place grid penalty would make things very interesting.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:49 (Ref:2044703)   #11
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A possible precedent - Ralf at Monaco in 05

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/4564295.stm
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 16:53 (Ref:2044708)   #12
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If McLaren's got an FIA Steward in their garage then why did he let this happen? Does he know the rules or is he only looking after Alonso's interest's?
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If McLaren's got an FIA Steward in their garage then why did he let this happen? Does he know the rules or is he only looking after Alonso's interest's?
The FIA steward isn't there today, according to Speed
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 17:00 (Ref:2044721)   #14
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Well maybe the FIA should give Hamilton his own Steward as it appears McLaren are trying to scupper his title chances!

McLaren left him out far too long in China and now they appear to have broken the rules in practice. Hamilton is in more need of a personal Steward than Alonso!
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 17:02 (Ref:2044723)   #15
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The steward is there to ensure equality, not give the team any help (not that it matters, as he isn't there today).
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 17:05 (Ref:2044726)   #16
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Well in that case send Alonso out on 2 sets of the wrong tyres and then they'll be equal!
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 17:07 (Ref:2044730)   #17
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Well on that basis, surely Alonso should have been sent out with the same equipment...
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I doubt anything will happen - several other drivers did the same thing.
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I doubt anything will happen - several other drivers did the same thing.
Several? Just three: Hamilton, Sato and Button.
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Why does this rule even exist?

*pointlessness meter flies off the scale*
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Alonso did it!
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Why does this rule even exist?

*pointlessness meter flies off the scale*
Not sure to be honest. But it only becomes pointless in times like these.
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Well, it looks to me like every driver should have their own steward then! Clearly every team in the paddock is trying their hardest to ensure they give their drivers unequal cars, dodgy tyre pressure's,rule breaking instructions, stolen technical data and other stuff!

Drivers have to be SO careful who they sign for nowaday's - its shocking!
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Not sure to be honest. But it only becomes pointless in times like these.
Well it is pointless at any time to me, frankly!
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It seems like it's the FIA making the mistake ... McLaren would not be stupid enough to use two sets of the same. He used one set of inters and one set of wets ...
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