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Old 13 Apr 2005, 18:05 (Ref:1277351)   #1
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I found out that not only is the Moscow race not going to happen this year but the Avignon race might not either. Except for Pau, France has a law against street races.
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Old 13 Apr 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1277389)   #2
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That's correct. See also:

http://dtm.touringcarnews.net/news.php?id=40
http://www.kennylovrin.se/tctv2/main...iewnews&id=341
http://www.autosport.nl/actueel/news...28&bericht=486 (in Dutch)
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Old 13 Apr 2005, 23:13 (Ref:1277651)   #3
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Could this mean a British round then? i'd heard Silverstone touted as a Moscow replacement.
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Old 13 Apr 2005, 23:23 (Ref:1277658)   #4
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I haven't really heard about Silverstone replacing Moscow so i don't know if Avignon would be replaced by a British round.
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 09:34 (Ref:1277846)   #5
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is it just me or do the DTM organisers seem a little unprofessional, first announcing a new race in Moscow then cancelling it and the uncertainty over Avignon days before the first race.

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Old 14 Apr 2005, 09:54 (Ref:1277867)   #6
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flor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridflor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
i think the fault was made in france this time, the city thought they would get the permission to hold a street race like pau, but .... well they didnt
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 10:03 (Ref:1277876)   #7
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I hope they replace it with another street race and not another track.
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 10:19 (Ref:1277892)   #8
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would love to see them race in Helsinki, but seems to be wtcc territory now
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 11:56 (Ref:1277956)   #9
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 12:20 (Ref:1277974)   #10
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street race, uk, riight. DTM hyde park?
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 13:09 (Ref:1278017)   #11
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Could use Birmingham, the council wanted to bring touring cars their,
Or Manchester they wanted Champ Cars, but DTM would be good.

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Old 14 Apr 2005, 13:52 (Ref:1278051)   #12
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Except for Pau, France has a law against street races.
Really? Then what would the Le Mans 24hrs fall under? Around half of the circuit is public road, at least 4 miles. Strange.
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is it just me or do the DTM organisers seem a little unprofessional, first announcing a new race in Moscow then cancelling it and the uncertainty over Avignon days before the first race.
Maybe they wanted a few good news stories after Opel announced they would be leaving.

With the 'MG' program seemingly at an end and these cancellations it does seem that the DTM dream is crumbling!
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 14:32 (Ref:1278087)   #14
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well ticket sales are even better than last year so i dont think the spectators care
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 14:42 (Ref:1278093)   #15
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Indeed Flor, is a bit of a shame though that the manufacturers are beginning to jump ship. Still, no doubt they will be back in the future, lets just hope its sooner rather than later.
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Old 14 Apr 2005, 19:40 (Ref:1278302)   #16
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Could this mean a British round then? i'd heard Silverstone touted as a Moscow replacement.
No, the replacement for Moscow is Brno.
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 03:05 (Ref:1278491)   #17
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is it just me or do the DTM organisers seem a little unprofessional, first announcing a new race in Moscow then cancelling it and the uncertainty over Avignon days before the first race.
I'm under the impression the DTM and other racing organizers are too easily swayed by well meaning (??) city/race organizers who are offering the DTM organizers free use of a city/racetrack/promotion. Haven't in most cases the race organizers offerred to pick up most if not all the race costs as long as the DTM/race series just show up? Doesn't that sound like a good deal to DTM organizers. OTOH, the old saying goes, If it looks too good to be true, it probably isn't??
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 07:33 (Ref:1278604)   #18
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Hope this is just french beaurocracy that will be sorted out. The french law seems to date from Le Mans 1955.At that time I think Montlhery was the only permanent circuit in france.Apart from Pau, street races still take place in Angouleme (for historic cars)and Le Mans is still mostly public road,not to mention hill climbs & rally stages.
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 08:14 (Ref:1278629)   #19
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I think the french law doesn't forbid races on public roads, but it forbids races in the streets of city, where it's a bit more crowded and less space.
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