Factory 996 GT2

simon c · 13 Feb 2004, 17:35 (Ref:873383)

why never developed?

Karl Kling · 13 Feb 2004, 18:35 (Ref:873454)

The GT2 is only a 'top of the line' road car that was never meant to race and there isn't really a big need for a GT2 racer when the GT3 is so good. The GT3 is also much cheaper to develop and run. It would have been fun to see a GT2 RS though.

I think this has been discussed here before but i can't remember what was said....

Bob C. · 13 Feb 2004, 18:58 (Ref:873475)

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Originally posted by simon c
why never developed?

I recall reading a quote from Jurgen Barth that basically said the GT2 would require too much investment in development before it could compete effectively against the Vettes/Vipers/Saleens in GTS. IMHO, it was a very surprising opinion. But in the age of the Cayenne, I suppose nothing much surprises me any more.

sportscarsRULE · 13 Feb 2004, 20:38 (Ref:873554)

I've been told the A.C.O. GTS rules don't favor turbos either.

gi_gav · 13 Feb 2004, 21:03 (Ref:873580)

I remember Porsche stating right from the start that the GT2 wouldn't be developed for competition.

JAG · 13 Feb 2004, 22:46 (Ref:873652)

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Originally posted by sportscarsRULE
I've been told the A.C.O. GTS rules don't favor turbos either.

Wasn't this just a bit of propoganda put out by Porsche when there 911 GT1 was not competitive.

Afterall the Toyota GT-ONE did pretty well.

As for GTS, the original 911 GT2 was at the end of its lifespan when the Viper came out.

The new GTS Panoz is supposed to have a turbo engine so they must think the regs are workable for turbo GTS cars.

therealdeal · 13 Feb 2004, 22:49 (Ref:873654)

panoz is coming out with a gts car??? wheres the info on that??

it would be great if porsche based an lmp-gtp on the 911 gt2 with the cayenne twin turbo engine

JAG · 13 Feb 2004, 22:53 (Ref:873656)

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Originally posted by therealdeal
panoz is coming out with a gts car??? wheres the info on that??

it would be great if porsche based an lmp-gtp on the 911 gt2 with the cayenne twin turbo engine

New GTS car based on the chassis of the Esperante with a Audi turbo engine.

Due 2005 or so.

BSchneiderFan · 15 Feb 2004, 00:45 (Ref:874461)

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Originally posted by gi_gav
I remember Porsche stating right from the start that the GT2 wouldn't be developed for competition.

We-e-e-e-ll, yes and no. At the end of 1998, there was a great deal of talk - indeed, an expectation - that Weissach would produce a 996-shape GT2/GT/GTS contender. The real controversy was over the prospect that it would feature a V8 engine. And then the Cayenne came along... grrr... grrr...

panoz.lmp1 · 15 Feb 2004, 11:55 (Ref:874730)

I heard from different sources from german teams who run 996 Turbo ;-) that the turbo is the problem when you want to build up an 996GT2 road car into a race version. Not sure what exactly (dimension or position). And to solve that you need a lot of development.

JAG · 15 Feb 2004, 12:12 (Ref:874740)

There will be a new 911 released in the next 12 months. One model will use the V8 engine from the Cayenne.

Could be the ideal solution for teams who want to build there own GTS spec 911, based on the GT3-RSR.

Then again the Carrera GT will be made in pretty high numbers so this may be a good base for a new private built GTS car.

**PascaLM** · 15 Feb 2004, 13:37 (Ref:874803)

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Originally posted by JAG
There will be a new 911 released in the next 12 months. One model will use the V8 engine from the Cayenne.

A V8 in a 911 ??? That will not be a 911 anymore !:confused:
915, 918, 938 maybe but not a 911.

JAG · 15 Feb 2004, 13:48 (Ref:874816)

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Originally posted by PascaLM
A V8 in a 911 ??? That will not be a 911 anymore !:confused:
915, 918, 938 maybe but not a 911.

Theres also going to be a new front engined Porshe with the V8 engine.

gfm · 15 Feb 2004, 16:44 (Ref:874910)

At the very least, the 996 GT2 feels as though the Porsche Factory has a model that keeps a foot in the door. If circumstances develop to the point where a twin turbo production-based machine would be suited for racing, it's there.
Then again, so is a V10 carbon 2-seater . . .

gi_gav · 15 Feb 2004, 17:19 (Ref:874929)

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Originally posted by BSchneiderFan
We-e-e-e-ll, yes and no. At the end of 1998, there was a great deal of talk - indeed, an expectation - that Weissach would produce a 996-shape GT2/GT/GTS contender. The real controversy was over the prospect that it would feature a V8 engine. And then the Cayenne came along... grrr... grrr...

Very true - what i'd meant was from the initial press coverage of the 996 GT2, about a year prior to launch. It was stated quite clearly then that the new baby wouldn't get to play on track.

BSchneiderFan · 16 Feb 2004, 14:55 (Ref:875852)

And a damn shame too. Condemned a lot of Porsche teams - Roock, Freisinger, Konrad - to pootling around at the back of the field, jumping ship to another marque or dropping down to N-GT.

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