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26 Mar 2013, 11:59 (Ref:3224947) | #1 | ||
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2014 IndyCar schedule
The 2013 IndyCar season has started. So it's time to create the 2014 schedule thread!
- o - Schmidt Peterson Motorsport co-owner Ric Peterson wants to build a road course in Calgary, Canada to host an IndyCar race. |
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26 Mar 2013, 12:33 (Ref:3224981) | #2 | ||
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I hear there will soon be an announcement of the 'PPL 300 - Grand Prix of Karachi'
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26 Mar 2013, 17:48 (Ref:3225122) | #3 | ||
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My guess is central Africa.
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26 Mar 2013, 17:53 (Ref:3225125) | #4 | ||
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Aren't they supposed to be building a new Grade 2 circuit outside Tehran?
Okay, seriously, the series could really use a second Canadian venue again, not just running twice in Toronto. This will be particularly important if Hinchcliffe takes off. A second South American round could certainly make sense, to further support the base down there, and help with travel considerations/expenses. I definitely want to see Pocono go to 500 miles at some point in the not-too-distant future. I know this sounds like a broken record, but I don't care. If they aren't going to use the original layout at Sears Point, they need to get the series down to Laguna Seca instead. Hopefully the race extension at Mid Ohio has the desired effect, and screw the damn sanction fee, the series should be at Road America. Last edited by Purist; 26 Mar 2013 at 18:02. |
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26 Mar 2013, 19:05 (Ref:3225182) | #5 | |
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Being a Brazilian, I say there's no need for a second race here. Brazil is going downhill in motorsport and I also don't enjoy the idea of wasting public money on races. If I could give an advise, I would recommend instead a race in Venezuela or Colombia, where there are lots of fans and drivers climbing up the ladder of American open-wheels motorsport. Yeah, I too know this race would be funded with money from government as well...
I'm a bit conservative when it comes to IndyCar schedule. Europe has no means to afford it right now. Asia has got the money, but overall interest remains little. Best solution is to gamble in North America. More rounds in Mexico, United States and Canada seem, to me, only the way Indy can regain some of the lost popularity. If they want to be aggresive, a race in Bahamas. |
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26 Mar 2013, 19:54 (Ref:3225212) | #6 | ||
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LOL, They should have come to Bermuda from 1998-December 2012 when we had Labour rule before they were voted out, when we spent billions on useless projects and events, Indycar would have fit perfectly in here where we spent Millions to host the PGA Grand Slam that 100 tourists come to see and almost spent hundreds of millions to build a basketball stadium.
Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica, Cayman sound like a brilliant idea, (cough, Hawaii Superprix, cough), but with the local governments and infrastructure, as well as the tiny sizes of the general population, it would be a complete mess. Indycar's 2014 schedule will probably be as boring as usual, this talk of international races gets more mundane year after year. Quebec City, Calgary, Mexico City, Curitiba, Surfers, Monaco ( yes this actually was once an Indycar trackforum rumour), Monza, Milan, Mugello ect ect ect. Getting Boring. |
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26 Mar 2013, 20:41 (Ref:3225240) | #7 | ||
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A Calgary race makes sense with the cancellation of Edmonton. I can remember it being mooted before.
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26 Mar 2013, 20:47 (Ref:3225244) | #8 | |
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A return to Michigan, Road America, Laguna, and Watkins Glen need to happen.
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26 Mar 2013, 23:34 (Ref:3225323) | #10 | ||
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i wouldn't suggest it outright, but if it somehow got on the schedule, I think an IndyCar race at Mugello would be quite enjoyable.
If Calgary does happen relatively soon, it looks like it could well be on a permanent circuit, which should be a plus for many. I don't see a particular problem with going to the permanent Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez. Maybe too many bridges have been burned, but a return to the long course at Surfers would be welcomed by many, I'm certain. Verde, even if the percentage of the population interested is a good bit lower than elsewhere, Brazil's sheer size and population concentration in Rio and Sao Paulo put it far ahead of any other country down there. On top of that, IndyCar has a number of native drivers and Brazil actually has suitable venues right now, which makes it the clear choice in Central/South America. Also, with Chavez gone, I expect the Venezuelan driver pool to shrink noticeably in rather short order. |
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The only country where I see a sustainable race is Chile. Eliseo Salazar had a project of building a road course north of Santiago, not sure how it's developing. That could be an excellent idea: Chile has a decent middle class who can attend, and major companies who would love to invest money to promote their image. |
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About ovals, I believe that Phoenix, Kentucky and Las Vegas should return quickly. There's the Providence and Fort Lauderdale street races being pushed by Ganassi and Andretti. |
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The big annual event is the Stampede, which draws 1.4 million visitors over the 10 days it runs. Calgary has most of Canada's O&G firms headquarters is more populous than Edmonton (1m vs 800k) |
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27 Mar 2013, 16:08 (Ref:3225628) | #14 | ||
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Believe in me, there are not many motorsport fans here. And the ones that exist are already going to watch the São Paulo race. And only a very little percentage can afford two races. And having to choose between SP and any other venue, most of the people will go for the first one. |
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I have no problem with a second Canadian race out west. However, the sooner they move the race from Toronto to Mosport the better.
The Toronto Indy now draws MAX 20,000 for race day. I mean MAX. I was there in 2010 and if there was 20,000 there that would be absolutely it. The circuit is the most horrendous place ever for spectators. Lousy viewing. The Grandstands are smaller and less plentiful than in the Halcyon days of the event in the early to mid 90's, and half the track is now unavailable for any viewing. From Turns 5 through to 9, it is completely blocked off for any spectator viewing. Combine that with ridiculous food and drink policies and price gouging and draconian security staff, and it is not an experience I will ever put myself through again. We were lucky to have seats in Turn Three in 2010, but those stands hold - maybe - 1,500 people, and they were NOT FULL. It is going to be an absolute embarrassment for Indy Car when they get 15 to 20 thousand for the Toronto Indy, while Mosport gets about 60 to 70 thousand for race day for the Camping World Truck Series race. Mosport (or Canadian Tire Motorsports Park for those being sponsor correct) is absolutely transforming itself. New state of the art Media and Conference Centre, new access road, state of the art paddock area, lengthened pit lane, new safety grading and paving of run-off areas in various areas of the track - including Turn Two, new spectator bridges, new grading and spots for prime RV view areas. The place is now becoming a state of the art venue again. With Ron Fellows and partners now running the place, Indy Car would be crazy to want to stay in Toronto when they could race at Mosport. As for Fort Erie, I will believe it when I see it. Building it now will be a white elephant, unless they do happen to get a Sprint Cup or Nationwide Race. I grew up about 20 minutes from where the new track will be going. People have to realize this. The track will be drawing primarily from the Toronto market, not Niagara. For people in Toronto, it is closer to drive to Mosport than Fort Erie. If they think they will be drawing from the U.S., they have a huge strike against them. PASSPORTS. U.S. Citizens need one to cross to Canada just like we do to the U.S. Why would someone from New York or Pennsylvania want to deal with cross border traffic and getting passports for a race, when they can go to Michigan, The Glen or Pocono for the same thing?? As for Indy Car. It would draw far better at a road course like Mosport than an oval at Fort Erie. Just my two cents worth. |
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No.
Toronto is one of the best street courses in the world and easily one of the highlights of the Indycar season Full stands, great racing, a success going back decades now.... Drop it at your peril. |
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Full stands?
The race has been a complete attendance failure since it's return and was dropping like a rock during the final years of champ car More grandstands removed this year. It's a terrible track, Mosport on the other hand would actually produce 'racing' as opposed to bumping and pit strategy. |
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Half full stands. Processional racing. 1/2 the race run under yellow. Extortionate ticket prices. Draconian Security measures. Horrible grandstand placement with lousy viewing and virtually no G/A places to watch from. If that is a sucess, I would hate to see what failure looks like. |
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Ratings Suck Though.
Canadian Viewership for Auto Racing over weekend: NASCAR at Auto Club on TSN: 350,000 Royal Purple 300: 156,000 F1 at Malaysia (at a ridiculous time) on TSN: 94,000 Indycar at St Petersburg on Sportsnet: 90,000 Indycar isn't even a blip in the Great White North, once one of, it not it's strongest market. |
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I have noticed that Sportsnet is really trying to advertise Indycar. And with Hinchcliffe winning the first race, even more advertising will be done to get people watching.
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