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Old 16 Jul 2017, 02:58 (Ref:3751556)   #1
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Sainz To Renault to Replace Palmer?
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...with Renault reported to be funding an $8m break fee??
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 03:17 (Ref:3751558)   #2
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...with Renault reported to be funding an $8m break fee??
Appears to an unconfirmed rumor at this point? Why not post this in the silly season thread with all the other speculation?

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Be surprised if they pay 8m to replace a driver who brings sponsorship.

With Sainz you'd get an OK driver, who is nowhere near as good as only he and his Dad think, who has a petulant attitude - and you'd get the Dad too.

But then again Abiteboul has a serious habit of making stupid decisions
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Be surprised if they pay 8m to replace a driver who brings sponsorship.

With Sainz you'd get an OK driver, who is nowhere near as good as only he and his Dad think, who has a petulant attitude - and you'd get the Dad too.

But then again Abiteboul has a serious habit of making stupid decisions
Sainz just an ok driver?!?

Perhaps Sainz will bring 9 million or Red Bull release in return for fully turned up engines 😉

So please tell us about your bad encounter with Senior and Junior that formed such a damning appraisal...

Agree totes about Cyril though. He is not qualified for that role.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 10:47 (Ref:3751613)   #5
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If Sainz went to Renault, that means that hopefully Gasly gets the chance with STR that he deserves. Everyone would be a winner
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 11:00 (Ref:3751623)   #6
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 11:14 (Ref:3751641)   #7
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I'll believe it when I see it; but it wouldn't be a bad move for Sainz.
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Where to for Mr Palmer?
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Be surprised if they pay 8m to replace a driver who brings sponsorship.

With Sainz you'd get an OK driver, who is nowhere near as good as only he and his Dad think, who has a petulant attitude - and you'd get the Dad too.

But then again Abiteboul has a serious habit of making stupid decisions
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Sainz just an ok driver?!?

Perhaps Sainz will bring 9 million or Red Bull release in return for fully turned up engines ��

So please tell us about your bad encounter with Senior and Junior that formed such a damning appraisal...

Agree totes about Cyril though. He is not qualified for that role.
Yes, seems a bit harsh Peebee, do tell. (Anyone else missing WSR 3.5?) Oops, OT : p
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 14:24 (Ref:3751768)   #11
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I've seen nothing to suggest petulance in Sainz. I think he's at worst a very solid driver and at best really first-rate - remember he was a match for Verstappen at STR. Max was promoted ahead of him to lock him in when other teams came sniffing around.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 14:44 (Ref:3751800)   #12
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Where to for Mr Palmer?
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Can't really see a mid season team swap, but it would be interesting to see what Sainz could do with a Renault given the Hulk's performance
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Especially if the upgrades continue to deliver.
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Sainz just an ok driver?!?
I know it's personal opinion, but I'm not seeing Sainz as the 'next big thing'......

Better than Palmer and a number of others, but not worth shelling out $8m for....
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I'd rather see Kubica in that Renault seat.
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I've seen nothing to suggest petulance in Sainz.
Less than 40% of the points of his much less experienced teammate in what was both of their first seasons in F1 - and still endless whining in the paddock that he should have been the one promoted to RBR. Just one example of plenty...
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I'd rather see Kubica in that Renault seat.
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I'd rather see Kubica in that Renault seat.
Difficult to see that ever happening......
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The man himself doesn't think so.

If Renault really do want rid of Palmer, why not stick Kubica in the car? Hülkenberg will still score solid points, and Kubica *might* just dazzle - worth a shot.
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I have never been a Palmer fan but he really hasn't had a fair crack of the whip this season. Something is wrong there for sure.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 21:12 (Ref:3752017)   #22
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I hope they keep Jolyon in for the rest of the year, he seems to be getting on top of the car now, i appreciate he should have done it sooner but there you go, i know he isn't a favourite here but he really has been out of luck this year.
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Don't get the Sainz hype - solid but surely this is a nonsense story. Do feel sorry for him at the moment.

Kubica all day long.
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Sainz is a pro and so deserves a chance, he just gets on with it and hasn't been disheartened by Max being promoted before him
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