BARC /BRSCC Ripoff

MAD RICK · 14 Jan 2002, 19:35 (Ref:198666)

New information
To all you drivers out there have you heard the latest news
regarding the BARC / BRSCC.
Having received the reg's for this years TOYO Tyre's championship
their is a little extra bit of info added they the(BARC/BRSCC) are
requiring us to pay a extra £200.00 from each driver to buy a
transponder to help them with lap timing! . As well as the normal
extra's on entry fee's & membership etc
Any extra info on this matter would be gratfully received
Apparently a lot of other championships have not been informed of
this yet having had a chat with a few people at the autosport show
so be warned.

EVEN MADDER
MAD RICK

Chris Y · 15 Jan 2002, 00:06 (Ref:198830)

Hi Rick,

Check out the Racer's forum - we've already been discussing this one (http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=16858) .. Apparently the BARC have gone for it in a major way, but the BRSCC are introducing it slowly. The Mighty Minis for example will only be using them at selected rounds, and they'll be issued free this year. Probably next year they'll be compulsory.

The first most people heard about it was when they got the regs for their championship - and they got a press release from MST timing. One or two people found out before (see thegrid.co.uk), but the BRSCC still hasn't revealed what they're up to.

Why is this being handled so quietly?

Ian-S · 15 Jan 2002, 02:05 (Ref:198855)

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Originally posted by Chris Y

Why is this being handled so quietly?

Because you'll be required to buy the transponder from the club at an inflated price - probably.

One day the Clubs may realise that there is not a never ending pool of money pooring into motor racing - but I expect it will be too late by the time they do realise it...

**Stephen Green** · 15 Jan 2002, 12:44 (Ref:198960)

Well we marshals have it harder as well. If we wish to marshal a BRSCC meeting, we have to be a BRSCC member now.

Personally I can't see them turning away volunteers on the day, especially the Saturday of two day meetings, but once again it's the thin end of the wedge all round.

Dave Brand · 15 Jan 2002, 13:30 (Ref:198969)

>>Well we marshals have it harder as well. If we wish to marshal a BRSCC meeting, we have to be a BRSCC member now. <<

Is that a national thing? BRSCC-NW's website still says you don't have to be a member to marshal - maybe that's a surprise we've got coming to us!

**Stephen Green** · 15 Jan 2002, 13:37 (Ref:198972)

Dave,

I think it's limited to the South Eastern Centre at the moment. As I said, I can't see them turning away people at the gate, but it means you can't get hold of an availability form unless you are a BRSCC member.

Chris Y · 15 Jan 2002, 14:25 (Ref:198982)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian-S
Because you'll be required to buy the transponder from the club at an inflated price - probably.

Oddly enough, no - we'll be buying the transponders from MST. The deal is with MST themselves, but they've signed deals with the BARC and the BRSCC. However, the MST has been a little premature in sending out information regarding the BRSCC's involvement - as they haven't fully committed. Only some BRSCC champs will have mandatory transponders. I don't have much information about BARC championships yet.

Dave Brand · 15 Jan 2002, 18:29 (Ref:199072)

Stephen,

It's organised differently in the north west. BMMC & BRSCC issue a joint availability form covering all meetings, irrespective of which club they are run by, at both Oulton & Anglesey - at least, that's what happened last year.

It's a good way of doing things - it means a lot less form-filling than is necessary for other circuits.

Dave.

Ian-S · 15 Jan 2002, 20:23 (Ref:199129)

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Y

Oddly enough, no - we'll be buying the transponders from MST.

How much are they from MST?

Dan Friel · 15 Jan 2002, 21:09 (Ref:199166)

I marshalled at the BRSCC winter meeting at Brands last November, I'm not a BRSCC member. I just e-mailled Alec Spooner, no problems.

Chris Y · 15 Jan 2002, 23:09 (Ref:199265)

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Originally posted by Ian-S
How much are they from MST?

£160 + VAT = £193 all in.

**Stephen Green** · 16 Jan 2002, 08:20 (Ref:199391)

Dan,

I believe the rule applies from this season.

Sorry to highjack the racers forum for marshalling issues chaps!!!

Dan Friel · 16 Jan 2002, 08:26 (Ref:199395)

that's a disgrace if it's true. I can't afford to be a member of the 750 MC, barc, brscc (several regions), hscc etc etc... (at least 200 quid a year to cover all options)

Perhaps you'll still be able to phone up Alec to get in though.

**Stephen Green** · 16 Jan 2002, 09:19 (Ref:199403)

Dan,

I'm sure they are not going to turn people away. As I understand it though it means you won't get a BRSCC availability form. My suggestion would be to check the web site www.brscc-se.co.uk and see what meetings you wish to marshal and then call or e-mail Alec. As you know Alec is rep for both the BRSCC and BMMC so he has 'two' hats to wear hahaha.

I hope this helps, if not let me know and I'll try and photocopy my availability sheets so you can see what's on and when ok.

Stephen.

Ian-S · 23 Jan 2002, 01:07 (Ref:202995)

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Y

£160 + VAT = £193 all in.

And I wonder what it would cost to buy direct from the manufacturer?
£130 + VAT perhaps? £30 going to the club etc.?

Sorry to be cynical, but I know how they run the clubs, and it isn't for the benefit of members!

Dave Brand · 23 Jan 2002, 21:36 (Ref:203397)

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Green
Dave,

I think it's limited to the South Eastern Centre at the moment. As I said, I can't see them turning away people at the gate, but it means you can't get hold of an availability form unless you are a BRSCC member.

We got our BRSCC stuff on Monday morning - no mention of having to be a BRSCC member.

Dave.

**Stephen Green** · 23 Jan 2002, 22:02 (Ref:203413)

I got my availability forms from the SE Centre this week too and on the front page it asks for your current BRSCC membership number.

Dave Brand · 24 Jan 2002, 11:50 (Ref:203586)

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Green
I got my availability forms from the SE Centre this week too and on the front page it asks for your current BRSCC membership number.

Ours ask for an MSA/BMMC Grade & Number & the name of the club of which we are a member.

Dave.

**Stephen Green** · 24 Jan 2002, 11:58 (Ref:203589)

Thanks Dave,

As I said earlier, I think it is only the South Eastern Centre who have taken this route so far, but it could become the 'norm' for coming years if we are not careful.

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