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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:32 (Ref:419602)   #1
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webber/pizzonia... who'll be quicker?

webber/pizzonia... who'll be quicker and who'll be better?
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:33 (Ref:419604)   #2
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:34 (Ref:419607)   #3
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I know most people will say Webber, but I think Pizzonia is going to be a revelation.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:37 (Ref:419611)   #4
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I agree with Raven. It will be Pizzonia, easy one, Webber is an overated driver.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:40 (Ref:419612)   #5
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Pizzonia might edge out Webber in qualifying but Webber will easily score more points.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:54 (Ref:419621)   #6
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well i havent heard much about Pizzonia, so i cant really comment. but webber should be great! provided the car is good, of cource...
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 17:56 (Ref:419623)   #7
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i agree with jones! they are both talented drivers and webber will have to fight hard to beat pizzonia!
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 18:15 (Ref:419636)   #8
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I know most people will say Webber, but I think Pizzonia is going to be a revelation.
im with Raven on thos one !

im sure Webber will be quicker early on , but Pizzionia is so much better than he made him self look in F3000 this year.

I think he';s going to big in F1....how big , i dont know , but he's goona be up there with the best of them one day.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 18:26 (Ref:419646)   #9
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Saw Pizzonia racing in Formula Renault in 98/99 I said to my father then that "if he isn't in F1 within 4 years its a disgrace", its been 5 years, so 1 year out isn't bad.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 18:31 (Ref:419650)   #10
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I think Pizzonia might be quiker, but he's still too wild and will have a "Sato season" with lots of dammage, but he's still young, so he'll get there, it will just take time.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 18:34 (Ref:419660)   #11
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Pizzonia, he is very talented and quick.
He, Sato and Massa are the future.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 18:38 (Ref:419664)   #12
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Webber out of the two. However had they signed Ant Davidson instead of Pizzonia he’d have been quicker than Webber, absolutely no doubt.

Jaguar you’ve missed the boat. Hopefully Jordan will see sense and sign Davidson.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 19:22 (Ref:419710)   #13
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Saw Pizzonia racing in Formula Renault in 98/99 I said to my father then that "if he isn't in F1 within 4 years its a disgrace", its been 5 years, so 1 year out isn't bad.
i remember him in Vauxhall Junior in 98 racing against Tomas Scheckter and Leighton Walker . Its good to see him finally make it to Formula 1. I didnt think he would get his chance just yet after his fairly poor F3000 season...but he has , and im pleased.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 19:30 (Ref:419716)   #14
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Pizzonia could be quicker, but Webber could finish more races than Antonio.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 21:11 (Ref:419778)   #15
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Webber will trash Pizzonia, who will disappear quickly from Formula 1.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 22:42 (Ref:419862)   #16
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Pizzonia by far. Pizzonia is all about Montoya/Raikkonen levels of natural talent.

Webber is a plodder...I'm amazed Jaguar have wasted money on the overrated, underachieving Aussie. IMO he is on a par with other F1 plodder journeymen such as Blundell, Bernoldi, Verstappen, Yoong and any other overrated underachieving rubbish.
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Old 1 Nov 2002, 23:19 (Ref:419907)   #17
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Where does your hatred of Australia come from? Have we done something to you before? Any chance you get, you'll rubbish Webber, but that's the thing, you just rubbish him, no facts and analysis of why you hold that opinion, it's just 'Webber is ****.'

Anyway....

Having a faster team-mate will be good for Webber because having Pizzonia there will spur him on. I have not seen Pizzonia race before so I cannot really comment on who'll be quicker. But from everything I've heard, they'll probably be equal, but Webber will most likely bring the car home more often.

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Old 2 Nov 2002, 01:11 (Ref:419956)   #18
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Being quick is one thing but Pizzonia has got to finish with the regularity of Webber who has the ability to get the car through to the finish & to say Webber is over rated is the joke of the year, you've just got to look at his performances in the Minardi this season to realise the guy's got talent & in a more competitive car will be a regular points finisher.
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Old 2 Nov 2002, 02:48 (Ref:419980)   #19
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Pizzonia by far. Pizzonia is all about Montoya/Raikkonen levels of natural talent.

Webber is a plodder...I'm amazed Jaguar have wasted money on the overrated, underachieving Aussie. IMO he is on a par with other F1 plodder journeymen such as Blundell, Bernoldi, Verstappen, Yoong and any other overrated underachieving rubbish.
IAYO, becareful of the flame baiting.

And for the sake of your own credabilty, you may want to watch a F1 race before commenting on them. Your post makes you appear niave at best.

Back to topic, should be a really good fight between these 2. Not far off each other in F1 miles, and both desperate to establish themselves over the other. It is this desperation that will see the cool headed Webber come out in front, but it terms of pace, there will be nothing between them.
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Pizzonia by far. Pizzonia is all about Montoya/Raikkonen levels of natural talent.

Webber is a plodder...I'm amazed Jaguar have wasted money on the overrated, underachieving Aussie. IMO he is on a par with other F1 plodder journeymen such as Blundell, Bernoldi, Verstappen, Yoong and any other overrated underachieving rubbish.
What utter ****....

Webber should perform better (I hope)..
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Old 2 Nov 2002, 03:17 (Ref:419983)   #21
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It will all depend on the car,if Jaguar deliver another donkey next year,who's faster will be immaterial.
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pizzonia , will be the first driver to take the fight to shu , just you watch, this is at last the chance for a real super star to shine.
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Old 2 Nov 2002, 07:20 (Ref:420004)   #23
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no it wont.....its awaysa interesting to see which driver can perform at a better level than his team mate .


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Both are skilled driver who, as Lauda said, bring different skills to the table. But since F1 racing experience counts, I'll go with Webber for 2003, but I have a feeling Pizzonia will turn out to be the quicker of the two in the long run.

Anyways, Webber with more points and finishes, but qualifying could be close. At the very least, Webber will actually get challenged by his teammate.
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Remember, we havent seen the best of Webber yet, he had Yoong as a teammate, and no immediate opposition in 2002, lets wait and see how he goes with a hard charger like Pizzonia alongside.

I predict a Heidfeld/Massa type battle. Pizzonia quicket outright, Webber smoother, more reliable, more points to begin with. I look forward to this battle, well done to Jaguar for not being afraid to take onboard two fresh drivers.
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