Has Spa changed?

**Adam43** · 6 Dec 2003, 00:28 (Ref:805273)

It seems that the entrance to the bus stop may be different next year.

Has anyone heard anything about this?

ASCII Man · 6 Dec 2003, 00:30 (Ref:805276)

Nope...

:confused:

ASCII Man · 6 Dec 2003, 00:35 (Ref:805279)

There were no plans for modification to the track as far as i know.

Can't find anything about it either.
Where did you find that, Adam?

darcym · 6 Dec 2003, 00:39 (Ref:805282)

I raced there this year, the track had not changed, and there was no work to change it going on.

I don't think they could make BIG changes in this short period of time, so...I don't think there are any changes

**Adam43** · 6 Dec 2003, 00:45 (Ref:805287)

Quote:

Originally posted by ASCII Man
Where did you find that, Adam?

On the Spa website! http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/en/index2.html while planning various trips there next year.

Quote:

Originally posted by darcym
I raced there this year, the track had not changed, and there was no work to change it going on.

Me too, there were some minor changes, but nothing major you are right. (and off topic, when and what did you race there?

)

I am talking about the 2004 changes that are highlighted, just before the bus stop, on the above map. I don't think these will take long, but I find it strange that nothing has been said.

It seems to hint that the entrance to the bus stop will be made more into two corners (best way I can think of describing it at the moment).

twig · 6 Dec 2003, 07:50 (Ref:805393)

I think it is a classic example of a circuit map which has many things either left out, or completely exaggerated - The latter being used in this case.

Hazza · 6 Dec 2003, 10:51 (Ref:805442)

dumb question: why do they need the bus-stop? When did they bring it in? 94?

darcym · 6 Dec 2003, 11:26 (Ref:805452)

The bus stop is a great corner. I really like it

paulzinho · 6 Dec 2003, 12:14 (Ref:805465)

Bus stop was brought in when Spa was shortened basically because without it they'd be doing some crazy speeds into La Source, would be fun to see it go but itd never happen!

73_Gstock · 6 Dec 2003, 12:55 (Ref:805486)

Oh what a beauty!

Stupid question alert from a Yank: Can you drive it like you can the Nordschleife?

ss_collins · 6 Dec 2003, 14:03 (Ref:805531)

73 no because its half public road.

Fish_Flake · 6 Dec 2003, 17:37 (Ref:805633)

As far as I know, the only actual stretch of road at Spa that you can drive is the stretch from Stavelot to La Source, sans the bus stop. The new section between Les Combes is private road, and I think the main highway has bypassed the stretch from La Source up the Kemmel straight. Eau Rouge was never open to the public, anyway.

darcym · 6 Dec 2003, 18:06 (Ref:805648)

Eau Rouge I can honestly say was the most thrilling moment of my life in a car. to go through it and make your foot override your head and not lift and trust the car will stick, which it does...and feeling the force as you are sucked into the seat and you feel the left front just lift of the ground slightly as you come over the rise.....wow. the TV does not do it justice. Once of the best moments in my life...let alone my racing life.

darcym · 6 Dec 2003, 18:07 (Ref:805649)

oooh yes for AdamAshmore it was June/July 2003 I raced there.

73_Gstock · 6 Dec 2003, 18:37 (Ref:805657)

Thanks, guys, just wondering.

Hoping to make it over to the Nordschleife when I'm in the UK next year for a drive.

Sodemo · 7 Dec 2003, 11:12 (Ref:805955)

I would love to do a kart race around Spa.

steve nielsen · 7 Dec 2003, 13:51 (Ref:806006)

as far as I know the busstop has changed, especialy the exit wich is a lot faster now.

Sodemo · 7 Dec 2003, 15:44 (Ref:806062)

The bus stop faster exit was modified back in 2001 so that change isn't new.

Sodemo · 7 Dec 2003, 15:45 (Ref:806064)

Actually it may have been 2002 when they modified the bus stop exit.

**Adam43** · 7 Dec 2003, 16:44 (Ref:806094)

As has been mentioned above:

The exit of the bus stop was and it isn't really a corner as such now.

The bus stop has been there ever since it returned to F1. http://www.racingcircuits.net/Belgiu...rchamps81.html

The new diagram seems to hint that they have made it more than just a flick left right.

As chicanes go the Bus Stop is excellent. Such a good circuit it even has the best chicanes!

Braking from high sped into it is very exciting and to watch an F1 car do it is awe-inspiring.

The question is, will it be different for September than it has been this year? I am unsure how they will achieve this. There is not much room to play with there. On the right (as you approach the bus stop) the ground falls away into the paddock.

**Adam43** · 14 May 2004, 09:08 (Ref:970676)

At the moment the bus stop still hsan't been changed. Although it will be changed soon. Those who went to the historic meeting last weekend saw the bus stop in its old guise for one of the last times.

Just before and on the right hand side (as you approach on track) there is some muddy building land ready for the alterations. There was no indication of the actual new track layout.

simon drabble · 14 May 2004, 09:49 (Ref:970715)

as I did £5000 worth of bodywork damage last year spinning on the entrance into the busstop I will be quite happy to see the entrance smoothed like the exit has!!
If you like the bus stop you should race at Chimay thay have three similar ones from memory! Julius has a Top Hat round but Barry Sideways Smith normally has an allcomers race which your Jag could run in. On similar vein if you get the chance to race at Charade its awesome sadly the series I went there with last year are not doing it- its full of mind over matter type corners and what it must have been like in an F1.... they were very brave!

Knowlesy · 15 May 2004, 12:17 (Ref:971652)

Wasn't there a thread about this a couple of months ago? I seem to remember a lot of uproar about the change...

M Coupe · 15 May 2004, 14:37 (Ref:971721)

I'm there on the 26th on a track day so wiull take a few pictures of whatever it's like.

**Adam43** · 15 May 2004, 18:38 (Ref:971845)

That'd be good, but I suspect it still won't have changed by then (26th May?).

knowlesy, I think this is the thread

simon, it is something that we have considered...

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