Supercars 2021 Media Rights

peckstar · 14 Mar 2018, 02:20 (Ref:3807849)

New media rights talks to start this year

Almost 3 years to go on the current deal

Will be interesting to see what happens

William5 · 14 Mar 2018, 08:28 (Ref:3807872)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

New media rights talks to start this year

Almost 3 years to go on the current deal

Will be interesting to see what happens

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens. I just feel they need more FTA coverage, with more extensive coverage at the major events with a tape delay of the minor rounds, rather than highlights for the SuperSprint rounds.

one five five · 14 Mar 2018, 11:41 (Ref:3807918)

I doubt it'll be much different.

There is little incentive for the FTA networks to be any more interested than they were for the 2015 rights, and Foxtel will be willing to pay overs to ensure they have subscriber content.

The horse has bolted

mayhem · 15 Mar 2018, 03:47 (Ref:3808089)

I'd be interested to see if any of the FTA outlets put in any kind of substantial bid on a series that is staring at a bit of uncertainty that will ultimately effect a percentage of their fanbase.

one five five · 15 Mar 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3808123)

Would any of them team up and split the series in two (broadcast wise) ?

bortall · 16 Mar 2018, 00:02 (Ref:3808255)

For FTA does it come down to how much is Bathurst worth?

The rest of the season probably doesn't matter to them.

chavez · 16 Mar 2018, 02:10 (Ref:3808263)

Hopefully Supercars will regain the rights to distribute a Review and Bathurst DVD or even make it available by download.

Langers · 16 Mar 2018, 15:26 (Ref:3808367)

The next deal is going to have to include some form of streaming in 4k

Mixer · 16 Mar 2018, 22:41 (Ref:3808441)

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The next deal is going to have to include some form of streaming in 4k

4k streaming is exceptionally unlikely to happen.

Streaming though would be good but I would expect like F1, that Foxtel would outbid/veto it.

mayhem · 16 Mar 2018, 23:45 (Ref:3808448)

It'd be great to pay for a 4K streaming package just to be constantly reminded how bad Malcolm Turnbull's broadband is.

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Streaming though would be good but I would expect like F1, that Foxtel would outbid/veto it.

NRL and AFL have streaming packages.

Alan52 · 17 Mar 2018, 07:00 (Ref:3808468)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

4k streaming is exceptionally unlikely to happen.

Streaming though would be good but I would expect like F1, that Foxtel would outbid/veto it.

No idea and don't care what happens with Supercars but Foxtel won't be stopping F1 streaming when the next rights deal comes up.In every country where new F1 tv deals have come up for renewal this year-and there were over 40 of them with nearly all of them involving pay tv-a streaming option has been introduced.Although Liberty get a smaller amount when rights are not tv exclusive they are betting they can more than make this up from streaming subscriptions.An example of what will happen in Australia is Moto GP where Foxtel shows what is broadcast on the MotoGP.com site from meetings.
We will not be getting 4K streaming.Australia is condemned to a third world standard internet due to the political buffoons being in charge.Nothing can be done to fix that.We are stuffed in perpetuity.

Mixer · 18 Mar 2018, 02:40 (Ref:3808761)

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Originally Posted by Alan52

No idea and don't care what happens with Supercars but Foxtel won't be stopping F1 streaming when the next rights deal comes up.

Hate to tell you this mate but Supercars aint F1.

Foxtel says here's 200 million bucks, geoblock your streaming, that's what happens.

Alan52 · 18 Mar 2018, 02:51 (Ref:3808767)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Hate to tell you this mate but Supercars aint F1.

Foxtel says here's 200 million bucks, geoblock your streaming, that's what happens.

Read my post.I said at the start I couldn't care less about Supercars.I was just correcting your statement re F1.Wouldnt worry me if there was no coverage of any sort for Supercars.

chavez · 18 Mar 2018, 02:55 (Ref:3808769)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Hate to tell you this mate but Supercars aint F1.

Foxtel says here's 200 million bucks, geoblock your streaming, that's what happens.

Liberty Media (and other sports promoters) will eventually cut out the middle men.

Foxtel is only a delivery mechanism. When Liberty (and Supercars) can deliver the content themselves why involve Foxtel at all?

Direct subscription is the way forward. Perhaps not in time for the next rights but certainly the one after.

Alan52 · 18 Mar 2018, 03:49 (Ref:3808780)

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Originally Posted by chavez

Liberty Media (and other sports promoters) will eventually cut out the middle men.

Foxtel is only a delivery mechanism. When Liberty (and Supercars) can deliver the content themselves why involve Foxtel at all?

Direct subscription is the way forward. Perhaps not in time for the next rights but certainly the one after.

Foxtel themselves recognise this and have recently started to position themselves as an aggregated delivery mechanism.They are close to concluding an agreement to put Netflix in their content.I think for a long time to come there will be a place for them as a delivery mechanism.This is particularly so in Australia with our retarded third world Internet.News Limited did all they could to help successfully bring down the Labor government to protect their own commercial interests in this regard.

cavvy · 18 Mar 2018, 04:12 (Ref:3808782)

By 2021 will the 4 horsemen be players?
.. some observers use the Four Horsemen to refer to Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google, the online streamers causing devastation to traditional media and retail shopping

See the cricket rights with submissions due by Easter:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...04-h0d9e5.html

Alan52 · 18 Mar 2018, 07:01 (Ref:3808798)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

By 2021 will the 4 horsemen be players?
.. some observers use the Four Horsemen to refer to Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google, the online streamers causing devastation to traditional media and retail shopping

See the cricket rights with submissions due by Easter:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...04-h0d9e5.html

The issue in Australia is the technical inadequacy of the NBN.

peckstar · 18 Mar 2018, 07:36 (Ref:3808803)

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Originally Posted by Alan52

The issue in Australia is the technical inadequacy of the NBN.

why would anyone want to be on NBN or its tieing you to a wall equivalent in 2021

I want my streaming live where ever i am, I dont want to be handcuffed to a location

cavvy · 18 Mar 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3808964)

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Originally Posted by Alan52

The issue in Australia is the technical inadequacy of the NBN.

Facing the reality of connecting ... not happy Jan.

Alan52 · 19 Mar 2018, 05:04 (Ref:3809031)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Facing the reality of connecting ... not happy Jan.

You have 18 months from NBN becoming available until your old connections are deactivated.Use all of it.If problems occur you are now allowed to revert to old network if you already tied yourself to the turkey.

mayhem · 19 Mar 2018, 06:06 (Ref:3809037)

From first hand experience, I couldn't agree more. The information superhighway is a dusty old road in Australia.

V8 Fireworks · 19 Mar 2018, 14:20 (Ref:3809105)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

I want my streaming live where ever i am, I dont want to be handcuffed to a location

That's nice, but mobile towers become congested more easily compared to a dedicated fixed line. Mobile data might seem good in principle, it's a real problem when lots of users are concentrated in one area.

<off topic> The CVC congestion created by the NBN's pricing structure is, on the other hand, artificial and could easily be eliminated by changing NBN's wholesale pricing structure.</off topic>

**GTRMagic** · 19 Mar 2018, 19:42 (Ref:3809177)

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Originally Posted by Alan52

You have 18 months from NBN becoming available until your old connections are deactivated.Use all of it.If problems occur you are now allowed to revert to old network if you already tied yourself to the turkey.

June 2019 at the earliest for me... my 10+ year old ADSL router will gave to suffice for now, although not looking forward to having the paved footpaths, the street torn up to put the wires down...

peckstar · 19 Mar 2018, 20:36 (Ref:3809188)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

That's nice, but mobile towers become congested more easily compared to a dedicated fixed line. Mobile data might seem good in principle, it's a real problem when lots of users are concentrated in one area.

<off topic> The CVC congestion created by the NBN's pricing structure is, on the other hand, artificial and could easily be eliminated by changing NBN's wholesale pricing structure.</off topic>

But your thinking about current technology, Not the technology that is coming. 5G is coming

And we can always build more towers

Alan52 · 20 Mar 2018, 01:03 (Ref:3809239)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

June 2019 at the earliest for me... my 10+ year old ADSL router will gave to suffice for now, although not looking forward to having the paved footpaths, the street torn up to put the wires down...

If only footpaths being torn up was the only or even biggest problem.

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