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24 Nov 2004, 13:30 (Ref:1162750)
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argh! Honda to block Davidsons Williams test?
Oh no! Just read this on F1racing.net
Looks like Richards left just at the wrong time for Ants racing career - Honda don't seem so charitable... http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=70084 Gits. |
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24 Nov 2004, 13:51 (Ref:1162770)
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Lets hope for his sake this is just an unsubstantiated leak (cf UK Government way of doing business) with a view to putting pressure on to confirm the release for the test or similar
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24 Nov 2004, 14:09 (Ref:1162790)
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Re: argh! Honda to block Davidsons Williams test?
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24 Nov 2004, 14:29 (Ref:1162798)
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If they feel that upbeat about Ant the proper and gentlemanly thing to do would be to put him under contract for 2005 and 2006, and release him on loan to gain experience in 2005. If they need his testing services for 2005, at the very least they should give him some sort of contractual commitment for a race drive for 2006.
Really what this boils down to though is brinkmanship on the part of both Williams and Honda. If either one of them would only commit to giving Ant what he deserves, then the problem would go away. |
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24 Nov 2004, 14:36 (Ref:1162802)
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What a disgrace. There is no other driver racing in the world at this current moment in time that deserves an F1 race seat more than Anthony.
If Honda give him a 2006 race seat then fine, but what if Jenson decides to stay in 2006, they're hardly going to chuck TS are they? |
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24 Nov 2004, 14:39 (Ref:1162804)
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Honda and BAR simply ahve to weigh things up. How much will Anthony be able to contribute as test driver for next year? Will he learn more that'd be of use for driving the 2006 BAR by testing the 2005 BAR or racing the 2005 Williams? Would lending him to Williams for a year advantage Williams? Will Williams pick up BAR secrets (perhaps indirectly)? If he goe son loan and returns, would BAR pick up Williams secrets? Quite a complex set of decisions there.
BAR have no moral obligation to release Ant for the drive, that's for sure. They should only do so if they feel taht it's to everyone's advantage. At this stage no one knows who Jenson will drive for in 2006 or beyond, or whether Sato is truly good enough to win races for Honda. |
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24 Nov 2004, 14:59 (Ref:1162817)
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In a statement BAR have confirmed they are blocking Ant's move to Williams for 2005. Apparently they were happy to allow him to leave but only on the condition he would be able to return in 2006 - Williams wanted no conditions.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...5§ion=news Shame for Ant who must have had a very good chance of the drive if negotiations got that far. |
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24 Nov 2004, 15:03 (Ref:1162821)
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That is a bloody shame. I'd like to hear the Williams version of it, because that statement sounds like BAR are being quite reasonable.
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24 Nov 2004, 15:54 (Ref:1162858)
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So is it going to come down to Heidfeld vs. Pizzonia or is DC still in the equation? Ou of those three, I think Nick deserves the drive most of all.
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24 Nov 2004, 16:06 (Ref:1162871)
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A shame really, Ant deserves a race seat next year.... down to Nick and Pizzonia, i think Pizzonia will get it... something i read FW said that the prefer a driver who knows the car well... Nick will have to be special to beat Pizza to the seat.
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24 Nov 2004, 16:11 (Ref:1162876)
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Seems a little odd. Why did Williams insist on no conditions for 2006? When they apparently have Webber and Button for then? You'd've thought BAR's best chance of keeping Button (which they ostensibly want to do) was to ensure Williams' 2006 race seats were filled.
Has the change at the top led to a different philosophy over drivers? Last edited by ensign14; 24 Nov 2004 at 16:12. |
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24 Nov 2004, 16:39 (Ref:1162898)
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Well, not a strange decision. It's happened before.
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24 Nov 2004, 16:46 (Ref:1162910)
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Thinking about this the condition may have related to Button - BAR would and Williams would not need Ant in 2006 if Button goes there in 2006 so either they never planned for Ant to race for them in 2005 or Button is not going to them for 2006 - in other words Button already has a 2006 contract - not with Williams and not with BAR - as it all only really makes sense if both BAR and WIlliams might need Ant in 2006 to race
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24 Nov 2004, 16:50 (Ref:1162920)
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This is terribly bad news.
 In the short term at least...... |
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24 Nov 2004, 17:06 (Ref:1162937)
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Wiliams couldn't rely on Jenson for 2006 - what happens if he gets a better offer? Schumacher has to retire one day...
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24 Nov 2004, 20:10 (Ref:1163130)
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Honda are on course to becoming the new Toyota. Mark my words.
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24 Nov 2004, 20:13 (Ref:1163135)
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Honda are trying to keep hold of their drivers, Toyota just get rid of them!
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24 Nov 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1163139)
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I was refering to the sacking of the people with motorsport knowledge and experience and replacing them with the "suits"
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24 Nov 2004, 20:52 (Ref:1163166)
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Which people with motorsport knowledge did Toyota ever have?
Williams had little to gain by running Ant for a year knowing that he would return to BAR. I'm sure they'd decided that, if JB is joining in 2006 they don't want Ant for the one season ahead of Nick, they probably made an ambitious but risk-free request to BAR. Still, we need to hear Williams' side of the story - there could be some gamesmanship from one or both sides. |
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24 Nov 2004, 21:20 (Ref:1163190)
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24 Nov 2004, 21:34 (Ref:1163212)
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He wasn't sacked though, he had reached the pre-determined Toyota "move-on" age.
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24 Nov 2004, 22:10 (Ref:1163262)
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24 Nov 2004, 23:50 (Ref:1163346)
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I think Williams is playing hardball with BAR over Davidson because BAR played hardball over Jenson.
Basically its all politics. Frank is sending a message to BAR. If you dont give me Jenson then ill take Davidson. BAR is playing the whole, nernie nernie nernie - we dont care about the drivers interests - your not having either of them. I wish the teams would put things in the best interests of the drivers. Personally, at this stage i think Nick Heidfeld, a proven f1 racer with more f1 experience then Mark Webber is a much better choice then Pizza Boy. Pizza has been beaten by Mark once, and only will be again. |
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25 Nov 2004, 00:24 (Ref:1163371)
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It's a bit of a non-story. Davidson had no chance of getting the seat.
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25 Nov 2004, 06:41 (Ref:1163481)
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Why do u say no-chance ? i would have said he had a big chance of landing it given his friday performances.
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