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29 Dec 2002, 22:31 (Ref:459782)
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Cobra v. Ferrari
On BBC Four there has just been a program about the Shelby Cobras taking on Ferrari.
It included some great footage of early 60s Le Mans and also some great modern shots of 250GT0s, Cobras and Cobra Coupe (Coops!) at a test track. There were also some good interviews with lots of drivers/mechanics etc involved. However, if you didn't know you would have thought hat Cobra won the 1964 Le Mans race! It maddened me. Yes they beat the 250GTOs, but... The sound from some commentary was clearly doctored and interviews cut short. A few times they couldn't cut someone mentioning the word 'class' etc. Factually it was very misleading. A shame. I don't see why they had to pretend Cobra won, it wouldn't have made it any less of a story. Has anyone else out there seen this? Is it a repeat? |
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29 Dec 2002, 22:35 (Ref:459784)
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It is a repeat and I've missed it again!!!!!!!!!
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29 Dec 2002, 22:41 (Ref:459790)
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29 Dec 2002, 22:43 (Ref:459792)
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I thought it had been on before (but I missed it then!). I only knew about it because they mentioned it at the end of Top Gear.
Anyway worth watching for the footage, but try not to learn anything while its on! |
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29 Dec 2002, 22:47 (Ref:459793)
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Its not surprising
 - you talk to most gearheads over here and they conveniently omit the fact that it was an AC Ace/Acecca before it was a Shelby Cobra. Jeff |
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It was a class win for Cobra in '64 but it was a big one. They beat the GTOs in a straight-up battle. In '65 when the Cobras won the FIA championship, it wasn't against factory Ferraris, so it was a somewhat hollow victory.
This is somewhat mirrored recently by Corvette's win over ORECA at the PLM in 2000 being a more substantial achievement than their 2001 manufacturer's championship. There's a great book on the Cobra/Ferrari wars called, well, "Cobra-Ferrari Wars" by Michael Shoen. It's one of the best-researched books in motorsports out there. Highly recommended. In parallel with the Cobra/Ferrari war in the Grand Touring class, was the Shelby/Ferrari war in the Sports Car class: GT40 vs 330P/365P. This one is less documented than the GT battle, but equally interesting. Last edited by C_g; 31 Dec 2002 at 19:44. |
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I knew it was on but couldn't reserve the telly (again). Who'd have kids?
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Cobra Ferrari .....AC Ferrari
GT40 Ferrari......LolaFerrari you british put up a good fight ... 
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