|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
27 Sep 2004, 15:52 (Ref:1108434) | #1 | ||
Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 68
|
2007 rules
Was just thinking today, who thinks for the all now 2007 F1 there should build the cars to run on ovals as well,and get a couple of oval racing in the calendar.
I was all against oval racing until I started to watch champcars a few years back and you get more over taking in one champcar races then you do in one whole year of F1 racing Last edited by david_james2000; 27 Sep 2004 at 15:53. |
||
|
27 Sep 2004, 15:54 (Ref:1108437) | #2 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
|
Oval racing is great - I love watching IRL races.
But it does not have a place in Formula One, in my opinion. |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 16:12 (Ref:1108465) | #3 | ||
Ten-Tenths Hall of Fame
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,181
|
The day they introduce ovals in F1 is the day I stop watching it. Keep it for the good ol boys in Nascar and irl, please.
|
||
__________________
"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda |
27 Sep 2004, 16:49 (Ref:1108496) | #4 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 556
|
Well they use half the oval at Indy and you can't really say that it makes great racing, although admittedly the cars aren't set up for a complete oval race.
The best races this year have been Silverstone and SPA amongst others where there are a variety of corners. I agree with KB - ovals have no place in F1. |
||
__________________
Ten reasons why I procrastinate: 1) |
27 Sep 2004, 16:51 (Ref:1108499) | #5 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
Wasn't the Indianapolis 500 an F1 round in the '50s?
|
||
__________________
The thrill from west hill |
27 Sep 2004, 16:56 (Ref:1108505) | #6 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 556
|
I don't think it was part of the F1 world championship, the teams just enterred it as an extra (prestigeous) race.
|
||
__________________
Ten reasons why I procrastinate: 1) |
27 Sep 2004, 17:06 (Ref:1108518) | #7 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
I remember a guy who won the 500 and only entered that race and finished quite highly up in the championship standings so it must have been.
|
||
__________________
The thrill from west hill |
27 Sep 2004, 17:08 (Ref:1108519) | #8 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Oval racing is wonderful.....and I love nothing more than the Indy 500, which is the worlds greatest race IMO.
But F1 shouldn't go to ovals. It wouldn't suit and it wouldn't have the same magic as it does in America. |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:12 (Ref:1108523) | #9 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
No it wouldn't and with the IRL, Champcars, NASCAR and co it would be pointless having it in the U.S. even Europe I doubt it would catch on.
|
||
__________________
The thrill from west hill |
27 Sep 2004, 17:13 (Ref:1108527) | #10 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
Plus the future rules would have to be re-written aloying Speedway configuratiions and the weight would have to be added etc to make it safer.
And how much would that cost then..... |
||
__________________
The thrill from west hill |
27 Sep 2004, 17:14 (Ref:1108528) | #11 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
Quote:
|
||
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:15 (Ref:1108529) | #12 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
It was non-championship wasn't it?
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:16 (Ref:1108531) | #13 | |
Racer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 100
|
Didn't they say Monza had an out of use Oval portion? How did that work? I've only see one picture and the banking was insane lol.
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:17 (Ref:1108533) | #14 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
It wrapped round the existing track, rejoining where the parabolica is now I think? And it went over the bridge leading to Ascari curves?
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:18 (Ref:1108534) | #15 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
No, it was.
For example, Jim Rathmann won the 1960 Indy 500, thereby getting 8 points, in the only F1 event he entered and ended an equal 8th in the championship with 8 points, together with Jim Clark and Richie Ginther. That makes me conclude that it is a championship event. Last edited by ASCII Man; 27 Sep 2004 at 17:19. |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:20 (Ref:1108535) | #16 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:32 (Ref:1108552) | #17 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
I'll gonna have to research that one.
Myabe it was non championship but points were still allocated anyways? I'm most probably wrong! |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:34 (Ref:1108559) | #18 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
I've looked in my encyclopedia thingy........Rathmann is in the championship with 8 points (joint 8th), but the Indy 500 is not listed as an event on the calendar, suggesting it was non-championship.
Hmmm......why allocate points then? |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:35 (Ref:1108561) | #19 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
My encyclopedia thingy has it listed as a championship event though...
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:39 (Ref:1108566) | #20 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
Ah....but mine is the Great Encyclopedia of Formula 1.........it is super accurate.
If it has got this one wrong I want my 80 quid back! |
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:39 (Ref:1108567) | #21 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,263
|
In my encylepedia it dosn't have it listed in the seasons results.
|
||
__________________
The thrill from west hill |
27 Sep 2004, 17:53 (Ref:1108585) | #22 | |
Registered User
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
|
It was definitely a championship round.
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:55 (Ref:1108593) | #23 | |
20KPINAL
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 29,853
|
I stand corrected then.......although I'm really not so sure.
|
|
|
27 Sep 2004, 17:56 (Ref:1108595) | #24 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 567
|
it wasn't run to formula 1 rules but it still counted towards world championship points.
|
||
|
27 Sep 2004, 18:02 (Ref:1108602) | #25 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 567
|
also rodger ward entered(and won) the 1959 indy 500, and the 1959 us gp(in an offenhauser midget car), which makes him one of the few drivers to enter the 500 and a gp in the years that the 500 counted towards the championship. also before alonso won last year at hungary bruce mclaren was the youngest winner of a gp, but troy ruttmann was the youngest winner of a world championship race, the 1952 indy 500.
|
||
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Fuji for 2007 | speedfreek | Formula One | 45 | 17 Mar 2006 16:11 |
Hopes for 2007 | Alwaysfirst | ChampCar World Series | 29 | 24 Jan 2006 00:05 |
The 2007 Chassis | macdaddy | ChampCar World Series | 54 | 23 Sep 2005 10:00 |
No ovals from 2007 on | Kicking-back | ChampCar World Series | 35 | 27 Jul 2005 01:01 |
Ireland for WRC in 2007 | Speedworx | Rallying & Rallycross | 8 | 15 Feb 2002 10:54 |