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31 Aug 2004, 11:04 (Ref:1082514)
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VZ Commodore
Thoughts on the VZ Commodore range as reviewd in "Wheels" magazine. Gets a good rating, stops short of proclaiming the SV6 190kw a better car than the BA XR6 (non-turbo).
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18 Sep 2004, 09:14 (Ref:1100005)
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Matt, the engine is a bit harsh. Not enough of a change really. The engine is not very impressive the new trans is ok not great but they have to do a major rethink with VE
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18 Sep 2004, 12:39 (Ref:1100119)
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Well i guess it's the first model with the new engine and gearbox is allways going to be a bit harsh.
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20 Sep 2004, 02:17 (Ref:1101550)
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Why would you expect a new model to be harsh?
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20 Sep 2004, 08:48 (Ref:1101705)
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Knowing Holden YES
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20 Sep 2004, 11:34 (Ref:1101859)
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How long before the VZ's get the 6 litre GenIV engines?
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21 Sep 2004, 09:28 (Ref:1102707)
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16 Oct 2004, 10:45 (Ref:1125868)
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Aside from the vents in the sporty models, it's hard to tell a VZ from a VY.
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17 Oct 2004, 11:11 (Ref:1126576)
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The headlights are more squared on the VZ and the tailights have the current trendy clear look. Interiors look the same.
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18 Oct 2004, 00:39 (Ref:1126973)
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According to a mate of mine who works at a Holden dealer, the new V6 has had alot of issues already. Smaller version of the Gen III?
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10 Dec 2004, 07:59 (Ref:1175902)
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I have now driven half a dozen of these things I have got out of each one thinking why would holden build an engine that seems to have a lot less torque and power than a VN Commodore
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13 Dec 2004, 07:50 (Ref:1178020)
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mind you the VN had most of it's torque low in the rev range. they had to de tune it for the VP
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15 Dec 2004, 13:57 (Ref:1180039)
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Why would they have to de tune it ?
Most people want their torque in the low rev range |
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16 Dec 2004, 02:18 (Ref:1180708)
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They had to de tune, people who bought the first VN's where always complaining about poor fuel consumption and a rough idel. One of the main problem was the cam they had in the engine. So they had to go to a milder cam to improve idel an d fuel consumption. I remeber as an apprentice a custome who had a V8 Calais and a V6 Exec and he was always complaining the V8 had much better fuel consumption
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16 Dec 2004, 11:12 (Ref:1180949)
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I've never known anyone to complain over having to drive a V8 because it was more economical
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16 Dec 2004, 11:14 (Ref:1180951)
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In the days when VN's where new and I was an apprentice they did, but that is a long, long, long, long time ago
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20 Dec 2004, 08:52 (Ref:1183676)
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I drive VZ Commodores at work and have been disappointed that they seem slower than the ut going VY in the lower spec V6 engine.
The car doesn't have the seat of the pants oomph of the Falcon. |
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28 Dec 2004, 01:44 (Ref:1188654)
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Well I had one until yesterday as a loaner but the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) failed. No start nothing. I have a very steep driveway here so it was fun watching the towie get the ***** with it. Particular with comments like "I am sick of picking up bloody broken down Holdens thats all I seem to do these days"
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28 Dec 2004, 06:16 (Ref:1188688)
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Say Col
Hows the turbo going? |
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