Toro Rosso Chassis

wi11iamm · 1 Dec 2005, 21:58 (Ref:1475129)

Sorry if this has already been covered...but what chassis will Toro Rosso be using next season?

I see they are using Red Bull chassis at the moment. Will that continue next season? Isnt there a issue with sharing components? As with Honda and S Aguri

Kicking-back · 1 Dec 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1475137)

They'll get the Red Bull 2005 design, buy the intellectual property for £1, and build it themselves.

Fully legal.

wi11iamm · 1 Dec 2005, 22:08 (Ref:1475142)

Why didnt Super Aguri do the same and purchase the rights to the 2005 BAR?

Kicking-back · 1 Dec 2005, 22:10 (Ref:1475146)

Potentially not enough time to build it

wi11iamm · 1 Dec 2005, 22:19 (Ref:1475157)

Surely if that had been an option to them they would have been able to construct two cars by the start of the season.

BootsOntheSide · 1 Dec 2005, 22:25 (Ref:1475164)

Depends how many stuff they have and how impressive the facilties are.

JohnMiller · 1 Dec 2005, 22:30 (Ref:1475172)

It's because BAR want to carry over some componentry and they couldn't do that if they had sold the intellectual rights.

One team could have been sanctoned in that scenario and it would be BAR, who of course had their fuel tank debacle this year.

wi11iamm · 1 Dec 2005, 22:32 (Ref:1475177)

Ah ok.

So that means the RB2(?) wont have any parts carried over from the RB1.

SpawnyWhippet · 2 Dec 2005, 00:21 (Ref:1475260)

Surely they could get around that very easily by modifying minor details on the components, like moving the bodywork fasteners, different type of rod end on the wishbones etc?

Marbot · 2 Dec 2005, 02:31 (Ref:1475317)

Here's what they could do.

avsfan733 · 2 Dec 2005, 04:55 (Ref:1475344)

heres a situation where you go to the pros on this issue....toyota and sauber

in all reality i don't see the problem with it really? remember when teams used to farm out the actual monocoque construction? im sure several of them were to the same company...is that any different than rosso "paying" red bull to build the chassis of which they have intellectual property rights?

SpawnyWhippet · 2 Dec 2005, 05:14 (Ref:1475349)

great avatar, AVSFan733!

KE30MAN · 2 Dec 2005, 05:39 (Ref:1475357)

2002 Arrows!!!

Skam85 · 2 Dec 2005, 06:35 (Ref:1475373)

2006 Super Aguri!!!

Sztepen · 2 Dec 2005, 15:32 (Ref:1475764)

from the article above:
"Concorde Agreement states that even if one owns the intellectual property rights of a chassis, it must not have been designed or manufactured by an existing operation"

So , back to topic , it seems that Toro Rosso WON'T be allowed to run the RB1 chassis in 2006 after all....? Am I right?

wi11iamm · 2 Dec 2005, 16:10 (Ref:1475784)

Im confused

D_Marshall · 2 Dec 2005, 16:52 (Ref:1475808)

What cars have Torro Rosso been running in testing? RB1? And if so, built by themselves or are they the chassis' used by Red Bull this year?

shambles · 2 Dec 2005, 18:11 (Ref:1475874)

I believe they are RB1's used by Red Bull this year. But - I am not 100% on that fact D_M...

Regards,

PAUL

Kicking-back · 2 Dec 2005, 18:11 (Ref:1475875)

They are using the ones built by Red Bull, but it's testing so they can do as they please

Marbot · 2 Dec 2005, 18:15 (Ref:1475877)

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Marshall

What cars have Torro Rosso been running in testing? RB1? And if so, built by themselves or are they the chassis' used by Red Bull this year?

I would imagine they are this years RB1 chassis as raced by RedBull.I don't think there's anything in the concorde agreement that prevents a team from testing another teams car (i think this was the case when MS tested a Sauber).They just aren't allowed to 'race' that chassis.The Minardi chassis is no longer being used or is owned or was designed by a current team other than STR,and so is elegible to race.

shambles · 2 Dec 2005, 18:17 (Ref:1475879)

Yeh that's correct Martyn.

Do people think that STR will use the livery they have used in testing next season, or do we expect them to use a different livery?

PAUL

**Born Racer** · 2 Dec 2005, 18:33 (Ref:1475897)

When did Schumacher test a Sauber? I remember reading some years back now that Peter Sauber had spoken to him about that but I thought it didn't go ahead.

shambles · 2 Dec 2005, 18:47 (Ref:1475908)

He tested a Sauber to help them gain development information. He also tested the 1994 Ligier, to gain some information about the Renault engines before Benetton switched to them in 1995.

PAUL

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