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2 Mar 2003, 21:48 (Ref:522749)
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cart gets rid of it, irl picks it up
traction control almost killed the racing in cart. wisely they got rid of it. the irl now thinks it will work in there series. anybody want to comment.
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2 Mar 2003, 21:51 (Ref:522755)
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For them? Why not? With stagger, cold tires comming out of the pits it's probably a safe idea. It wouldn't dilute their race product like it did in CART.
Jordi - Please stop closing these kinds of posts.  There is at best 1 new post/day. We can handle a few that aren't 100% applicable to CART.
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2 Mar 2003, 21:53 (Ref:522759)
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good point. but with the irl supposidly road racing next year, it will kill the show
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2 Mar 2003, 21:55 (Ref:522762)
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And the costs of the IRL spiral ever upwards.
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2 Mar 2003, 21:57 (Ref:522764)
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by the way snout i luv the quote you have about the first 2 hrs. its so true
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2 Mar 2003, 22:01 (Ref:522773)
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I don't think IRL will go road racing. I also question how much traction control will cost. It doesn't have to be a great system when you're only going up to 50MPH. You get a sensor and program the ECU to alter the ignition if the tires start spinning. However, CART and IRL are suppose to cost about the same this year, but CART has quiet a few more races.
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2 Mar 2003, 22:04 (Ref:522779)
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irl wants to be like nascar real bad, road races would make tony real happy. especially if the champ car world series gets rid of elkhart
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2 Mar 2003, 22:28 (Ref:522816)
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Well they say testing for the new gen IRL cars on roadcourses isn't going too well so
I wouldn't be sure either about roadcourses anytime soon, but TG does want certain ones for sure no 2 ways. Honda and Toyota are always at each other so I'm sure traction control would be no different and R&D costs money. Last edited by The Snout; 2 Mar 2003 at 22:29. |
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2 Mar 2003, 22:42 (Ref:522842)
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Don't close it, but shouldn't this be in IRL forum as it more concerns the IRL than Cart?
I don't think it's a big deal in the IRL except on pitstops. And Cart sill has launch control, so it's really not different. |
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2 Mar 2003, 22:48 (Ref:522848)
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i was just trying to point out, anything cart loses or gets rid of, the irl grabs it. for example most ovals, teams,engines,and sponsers. this ticks me off
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2 Mar 2003, 22:49 (Ref:522849)
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Moved to the IRL forum
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2 Mar 2003, 22:49 (Ref:522851)
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I wish Cart'd get rid of Launch control too... remember when the cars used to leave the pits how there'd be these huge plumes of white tire smoke! I miss that!
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2 Mar 2003, 22:50 (Ref:522853)
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2 Mar 2003, 23:04 (Ref:522869)
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Snout, if you have a problem with me doing my job as a moderator then you can PM me about it.
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2 Mar 2003, 23:35 (Ref:522911)
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To all concerned, my post wasn't directed at Down Force.
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2 Mar 2003, 23:44 (Ref:522916)
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before we get off topic...
It's not like on a road course when you can slide about a bit and if you lose it you go into a gravel trap, on ovals you go striaght into a wall, possibly sheading parts of car everywhere. It's really a saftey thing, you just cant get away with powerslides on an oval. |
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Quote:
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4 Mar 2003, 18:47 (Ref:524703)
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If the IRL does road races, will they have to build different cars?
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4 Mar 2003, 19:08 (Ref:524715)
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thats an interesting question mirwin, my answer would be yes , because the cars are basically designed for oval use , Nascar have several different chassis for short,longer and superspeedway type ovals and then another car for the road courses , I dont think its just a case of changing the stagger these days , there is obviously more involved than that , so another chassis could possibly be involved , increasing costs yet again.
I'd like to see them on a road course just out of pure curiosity , but if it is going to increase costs dramatically then they should seriously think against not doing it. |
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