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Old 14 Apr 2004, 15:40 (Ref:939546)   #1
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Surtees Jnr...!

Just thought I'd share with you guys that having spent a large amount of my last year at the most excellent karting facility that is Buckmore Park, an F1 legends son is rising through the karting ranks quite rapidly: Henry Surtees. Remember the name - the boy's very quick (top 3 in Junior Rotax every race against superb opposition) and has sizeable backing from his father. Just a thought, but if I was a betting man I'd place a fair whack that the 13 year old WILL be in an F1 car within the next ten years - he's good, very good...

Cash + talent + connections = Going places!

Oh yes, the 13 year old also won a Junior Rotax race infront of Bernie Ecclestone, when he opened the new clubhouse (that John S funded!) - good timing...!
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Old 14 Apr 2004, 16:00 (Ref:939564)   #2
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Old 14 Apr 2004, 18:28 (Ref:939699)   #3
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13, eh?

John must have a much younger wife
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Old 14 Apr 2004, 18:39 (Ref:939708)   #4
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Mark Baines should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
hes not that good although he does have the money
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Old 14 Apr 2004, 20:17 (Ref:939771)   #5
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saw young Henry at a 3 sisters meeting 2 years ago & he did well that day, thought he could be someone to watch in the future
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Old 14 Apr 2004, 23:41 (Ref:939940)   #6
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I've picked up snippets of his career in Autosport and I gather he's doing very well for himself. His connections should eventually ensure an F1 test, whatever.

Good luck to the guy. Maybe he can dominate the world on two and four wheels!!!!
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I'd heard the kid was doing well.

I might be wrong, but isn't John Surtees involved in Buckmore? Perhaps someone could confirm this.

also this is the ideal opportunity to show that there is more to ten-tenths, motorsport and life than F1 (no really there is)

Moved to the kart forum, I'll leave a re-direct here...

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Old 15 Apr 2004, 08:36 (Ref:940160)   #8
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HS is very quick, but 2 guys who have blown me away, and I’m fortunate to be mates with them are Super 1 Rotax Champ Dan Faulkner, and Junior Rotax Champ Chris Newton. The latter is in his 2nd season in karts and is already in JR Super 1! On his S1 debut at Clay Chris had only his 3rd run on his Tony Kart – was unlucky to finish 6th, but set the fastest lap – impressive stuff. The guy’s only 15 and is an approachable lad…plus he does beat Henry ;-)

HS is a constant top 3 runner everytime I’ve seen him run, and is very smooth – especially when he’s out front. Only Chris, the Project One runner MacDonald, and Ben Cooper look as fast.

HS is very grown up for his age, he’s got a clever head on those shoulders…

John has invested millions into the circuit, Bill Sisley (Owner of Buckmore) is very grateful of John’s input both financially and strategically – his contacts list is second to none! The clubhouse – worth £1 million, was funded by John! I admire him for investing in the sport.
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Old 15 Apr 2004, 22:47 (Ref:941000)   #9
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Does Bill still own Buckmore?

The new clubhouse is brilliant, only used it once, last summer but it was fantastic. Buckmore rose to the competition by Thruxtons new kart facility well.
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Old 15 Apr 2004, 23:39 (Ref:941021)   #10
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In this weeks Motorsport News it says "John Surtees has withdrawn his son Henry from Super 1 Junior Max,citing 'personal reasons'.
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Old 15 Apr 2004, 23:52 (Ref:941028)   #11
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yeh hes not quick enough.sorry guys i have seen him race plenty of times and he just is not quick enough
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 07:41 (Ref:941211)   #12
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Mark, have you seen Chris Newton then? VERY quick, he's on a Tony Kart in JR S1 this season.
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 07:51 (Ref:941220)   #13
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Paulzinho - Bill is very much the main man at Buckmore. The man is a superb businessman I greatly respect and admire. He’s turned Buckers into arguably the best and most prestigious kart circuit in the UK - it reminds me very much of Brands Hatch, and with Jonathan Palmers son joining Mini Max, we’ll see JP forging closer ties between the 2 venues – which can only be good for the whole of UK Motorsport.
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 15:55 (Ref:941736)   #14
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Thats good to hear, Bill used to help out my Dad when he was racing in the 70's, he helped out Johnny Herbert quite a bit as well as I understand it!
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 16:04 (Ref:941746)   #15
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There's a great pic of JH and Bill together on the Buckmore site - in the 'future of karting' PDF. Bill is a karting legend - he was quick himself too...
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 16:15 (Ref:941759)   #16
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Buckmore a most excellent facility?? Must be joking. Compared to everywhere else in the country, over night parking fees and practise fees are much more expensive. Pits are stupid, they were far better before they re-modeled them about 5 years back. Walk half a mile to find some toilets which have always been sub-standard. Sorry i havent been there since the new building was built.

Dont get me wrong it has a great track. But compare the facilites with that of PF and they arnt too great.
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 16:18 (Ref:941761)   #17
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Tom, trust me mate, go there now the new facility has been built - it's a stunning clubhouse! They've built a very helpful paddock building, plus they are building a walk bridge and grandstand in the very near future - Surtees' money is being well spent - Buckmore is looking VERY good.
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 18:37 (Ref:941941)   #18
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hi spider no i have not seen him this year on the subject of buckmore decent facilites but the track is not even 900 meters the worst case of false advertising i have ever seen.camping prices are shocking
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 19:14 (Ref:941986)   #19
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isn't buckmore like 1200m? and i was there for the tkm super 1 round and the new building in the pits is brilliant, nice and warm toilets and showers and a little food bar!
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 21:22 (Ref:942126)   #20
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Yes. #15 TKM 4/ is right. The circuit is more like 1200metres. I think there are about 3 different lay outs though, the shortest might be more like 900m
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Old 16 Apr 2004, 22:09 (Ref:942179)   #21
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i can assure you it is not 1200m if you have a data logger see what it comes up with
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Old 24 Apr 2004, 20:06 (Ref:950339)   #22
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If you add all three configuration together then you might get 1200m.
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I'm pretty sure Buckmore is 1200m, and I aint heard otherwise from anywhere else :confused:
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Old 25 Apr 2004, 16:43 (Ref:951209)   #24
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All circuit lengths are measured using the outside white line, buckmore is the same. The racing line length is around the 900m mark yes, but the official length is correct.
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