NASCAR Sprint Cup Round 4: Bristol

Cynic · 15 Mar 2013, 21:52 (Ref:3219093)

Qualifying line up. Shrub sets a new track record whilst Danica continues her mission to make Joe Nemecheck look competitive.

Pos Driver Car No
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1 Kyle Busch 18
2 Kasey Kahne 5
3 Denny Hamlin 11
4 Brian Vickers 55
5 Paul Menard 27
6 Jamie McMurray 1
7 Brad Keselowski 2
8 Tony Stewart 14
9 Martin Truex Jr 56
10 Joey Logano 22
11 Jeff Gordon 24
12 Matt Kenseth 20
13 Jimmie Johnson 48
14 David Gilliland 38
15 Casey Mears 13
16 Jeff Burton 31
17 Juan Pablo Montoya 42
18 Kevin Harvick 29
19 Kurt Busch 78
20 Aric Almirola 43
21 Carl Edwards 99
22 Marcos Ambrose 9
23 Clint Bowyer 15
24 Greg Biffle 16
25 David Reutimann 83
26 David Stremme 30
27 Scott Speed 95
28 Ricky Stenhouse Jr 17
29 AJ Allmendinger 51
30 David Ragan 34
31 Ryan Newman 39
32 Dale Earnhardt Jr 88
33 Dave Blaney 7
34 Michael McDowell 98
35 J.J. Yeley 36
36 Mike Bliss 19
37 Travis Kvapil 93
38 Joe Nemechek 87
39 Bobby Labonte 47
40 Josh Wise 35
41 Danica Patrick 10
42 Landon Cassill 33
43 Terry Labonte 32

MJ_N_09 · 15 Mar 2013, 22:36 (Ref:3219104)

Honestly, I'm starting to think that this provisional guaranteed starting spot system is worse than last year's. All you have to do is be top 42 in points, with the guy 43rd or lower in points having to qualify 36th place or better to make the show, no matter what. It hadn't been an issue until this weekend.

**gomick** · 15 Mar 2013, 23:49 (Ref:3219119)

Get rid of provisional's perhaps - get in on qualifying speed?

MJ_N_09 · 17 Mar 2013, 00:59 (Ref:3219723)

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Originally Posted by gomick

Get rid of provisional's perhaps - get in on qualifying speed?

Yes, I'd like to see the fastest 43, but say that someone like Jimmie or Brad has an engine issue or spinout, thus missing the race and having devastated championship hopes? There should be a more reasonable provisional system, like drivers within a certain amount of points (30-40) who can use the provisional, or only the ones top 10 in points.

**gomick** · 17 Mar 2013, 02:57 (Ref:3219788)

I remember Ryan Villopoto missing a main event in the AMA Supercross Championship last year & he still won the title... If 46 cars enter an event, why cant they all race?

I reckon that unless there are plenty of cautions at Bristol, Kyle Busch will lap half of this field very quickly...

fieldodreams79 · 17 Mar 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3220122)

The stands as empty as I have ever seen them at Bristol. Looks like a NW or Modified crowd.

Pathetic.

**gomick** · 17 Mar 2013, 18:57 (Ref:3220157)

Why is that? The night race is normally sold out isnt it?

Good to see Ambrose still on the lead lap at 300, needs a caution tho to stay there...

**gomick** · 17 Mar 2013, 19:32 (Ref:3220175)

No luck there for Matt Kenseth as Jeff Gordon blows the right front... Waiting for Joey Logano to come up & deal with Denny Hamlin

FordCosworthPanoz · 17 Mar 2013, 20:57 (Ref:3220222)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

The stands as empty as I have ever seen them at Bristol. Looks like a NW or Modified crowd.

Pathetic.

Last year was actually worse, the front stretch at least was mostly full this time around. Bristol Night race usually gets close to a sellout and the March race has become a miss due to a lack of electricity and atmosphere as well as the weather compared to August.

There are only two major tracks (all the smaller tracks haven't had big drops as well), that have not had major drops in attendance since the economy started getting worse, Las Vegas and Richmond. Think for a second and realise what those two tracks have in common compared to say Bristol, Daytona, or Talladega.

MJ_N_09 · 17 Mar 2013, 22:42 (Ref:3220265)

I give my thumbs up for the race, though I feel bad for the several tire failures. The racing, I felt, was excellent. Racing all over, never any single file follow the leader stuff like what has become so common in the sport.

FordCosworthPanoz · 17 Mar 2013, 23:08 (Ref:3220289)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

I give my thumbs up for the race, though I feel bad for the several tire failures. The racing, I felt, was excellent. Racing all over, never any single file follow the leader stuff like what has become so common in the sport.

The "new-new-grinded" Bristol reminds me a lot of Winchester or Salem, fantastic racing.

FordCosworthPanoz · 17 Mar 2013, 23:12 (Ref:3220292)

My Grades so far:

Unlimited: C-
Daytona: E
Phoenix: C
Las Vegas: B-
Bristol: A

Gen 6 Car: B-

HJJ · 18 Mar 2013, 00:21 (Ref:3220308)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

The stands as empty as I have ever seen them at Bristol. Looks like a NW or Modified crowd.

Pathetic.

Yep. Can't wait till next week to hear from Bruton on how to improve Nascar and the racing.

Ever hear of Groupon, Bruton?

The Original Instag8or · 18 Mar 2013, 07:18 (Ref:3220374)

Racing is fine at Bristol. Too bad the Bristol crowd was more into demolition derby than actual racing.

NaBUru38 · 18 Mar 2013, 18:54 (Ref:3220723)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Honestly, I'm starting to think that this provisional guaranteed starting spot system is worse than last year's. All you have to do is be top 42 in points, with the guy 43rd or lower in points having to qualify 36th place or better to make the show, no matter what. It hadn't been an issue until this weekend.

That's right, the new system punishes part-time drivers who qualify

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Yes, I'd like to see the fastest 43, but say that someone like Jimmie or Brad has an engine issue or spinout, thus missing the race and having devastated championship hopes?

There should be a more reasonable provisional system, like drivers within a certain amount of points (30-40) who can use the provisional, or only the ones top 10 in points.

My system would be the one used last year, but with only the top 20 / 25 drivers as A-list instead of 35. That way, the top 20 / 25 drivers in the standings are guaranteed into the race, but part-time drivers just need to qualify in the top 43 to race (actually, top 42 if there's a A-list driver, top 41 if there's two, etc).

962 · 19 Mar 2013, 13:52 (Ref:3221186)

[QUOTE=NaBUru38;3220723]That's right, the new system punishes part-time drivers who qualify

How does it punnish the part time guys that qualify? if they Q top 35 they are in, last year a part time guy could qualify 4th and if several top teams had problems the 4th place qualifier would miss the race.

**joeb** · 19 Mar 2013, 13:53 (Ref:3221187)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

Yep. Can't wait till next week to hear from Bruton on how to improve Nascar and the racing.

Ever hear of Groupon, Bruton?

Groupon, that is a great idea actually!

HJJ · 19 Mar 2013, 17:41 (Ref:3221300)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

Groupon, that is a great idea actually!

I got a groupon notice for the Grand-Am race at Road Atlanta. Two day ticket (Fri/Sat) for $23.00. They sold a total of 9 and the deal was "sold out".

MJ_N_09 · 19 Mar 2013, 21:54 (Ref:3221419)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

My Grades so far:

Unlimited: C-
Daytona: E
Phoenix: C
Las Vegas: B-
Bristol: A

Gen 6 Car: B-

Sounds about right, but I would give Daytona and the Unlimited D's instead. Knowing Nascar, they will throw new rules and things to the cars in an attempt to make the racing more exciting. I hope the "changes" would not mess up the cars for the rest of the other tracks.

mrfizz · 20 Mar 2013, 12:56 (Ref:3221705)

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Originally Posted by Cynic

Qualifying line up. Shrub sets a new track record whilst Danica continues her mission to make Joe Nemecheck look competitive.

Oi! Lay off Front Row Joe. He don't do too bad for a owner/driver who races fulltime in NSCS and NNS and also has to build cars for his son, all on a budget that wouldn't keep Danicant in Bikini's for a year.

NaBUru38 · 20 Mar 2013, 13:25 (Ref:3221712)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 962

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

That's right, the new system punishes part-time drivers who qualify

How does it punnish the part time guys that qualify? if they Q top 35 they are in, last year a part time guy could qualify 4th and if several top teams had problems the 4th place qualifier would miss the race.

I mistakenly deleted some text out. I meant to say that it punishes part-time drivers who qualify 36th-43th.

**joeb** · 20 Mar 2013, 18:54 (Ref:3221845)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

I got a groupon notice for the Grand-Am race at Road Atlanta. Two day ticket (Fri/Sat) for $23.00. They sold a total of 9 and the deal was "sold out".

Aiming for the stars!

**FIRE** · 20 Mar 2013, 23:10 (Ref:3221998)

Great racing. Shame Kaehne had a small gap so there was no fight for the win.

**gomick** · 20 Mar 2013, 23:31 (Ref:3222009)

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Originally Posted by mrfizz

Oi! Lay off Front Row Joe. He don't do too bad for a owner/driver who races fulltime in NSCS and NNS and also has to build cars for his son, all on a budget that wouldn't keep Danicant in Bikini's for a year.

Joe would be making good prizemoney for both series? Must be a little profit to keep him going?

MJ_N_09 · 21 Mar 2013, 01:58 (Ref:3222051)

Not to mention he has yet to start and park this year. I probably just jinxed it now, watch.

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