young driver award winner

[Back Marker]

On sunday i think its the young driver awards in london.
Any ideas on who will get it or has anyone heard anything through the grapevine??

[Russfeld]

Who is Dan Eagling?


Its gotta be Jamie Green.

[BennyBoy1978]

Has to be Adam Carroll

[nev]

I think your all missing the point -- what you have to do is put all the drivers in order of achievements then test them all for driving ability, speak to them indervidually to assess their personality - then put them into a hat and pick one !!! like last year !!

[Francesca]

Adam Carroll methinks

[a_r_c_a]

Adam was low, just watching the show

[JR Ewing]

I voted for Dan Eagling because, while not 'high profile' he is the only one who i think can really claim to deserve it as the others all had top rate, everything paid for drives.
As a second choice, England has impressed without a fortune.

[JR Ewing]

Originally posted by Russfeld
[B]Who is Dan Eagling?B]

And to think you might claim to be knowledgeable and a fan??

[Paul Rayner]

Originally posted by JR Ewing
...the others all had top rate, everything paid for drives.
As a second choice, England has impressed without a fortune.

I would personally put that quote down as the reason that I doubt either Egling or England will win it. Why? I will explain...

Every year, Autosport/the BRDC/McLaren/whoever try to pick a driver who they feel is most likely to get to F1. This doesn't just go on driver talent, but also the team of promoters/sponsors/money they have behind them, and the momentum they have in their career. Therefore, if they feel that a driver has had problems gaining funding in the past and they may have further problems in the future, they won't let them win. Last year, I believe that Steven Kane won over Robbie Kerr because, with a works Van Diemen drive lined up for 2002, it looked like he was going up, and had momentum. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but did that many people really expect Kerr to beat Courtney to the F3 title this year?

I've voted for Jamie Green for a couple of reasons. One is that, I'll admit, I am biased towards Formula Renault, I've talked to the guy this year, watched him race, and think that he could have what it takes to make it. He's also tested, and even raced already, for Carlin, and done very well for an International F3 debut, which all points to good momentum to continue next year in British F3. Unlike any of the other finalists, 2002 was Green's first season of racing cars and by running very close to, and sometimes beating, Watts this season, he made an impressive debut. Faced with choosing two drivers from the same championship, and team, however, would they really choose the one that came second?

I reckon Green or Carroll will win it.

We'll find out soon enough I guess...

[Muppet]

I reckon it will be Danny Watts. We want him in F3 next year! ;-)

[Vortex]

May i ask how you all seem to know how some of the finalists have had "top rate, everything paid for drives" when there are actually none of you associated with any of the drivers other than you have seen them in the press.

All of the drivers except Adam Carroll have paid their own budgets this year, Mr Sweeny paid for Mr Carroll.

What gives you the impression that England has done what he has this year on "not a fortune" ? do you know something we all don't ?

[nev]

Why would Danny Watts want to waste his time and money on being in British F3 -- Its not like you get any recognition from being a british driver and winning that formula - he should save his cash and show his face around the f1 stage !!

[Russfeld]

Originally posted by JR Ewing
And to think you might claim to be knowledgeable and a fan??

meow


Adam Carroll only had to beat the scholarship grid, and Dahlgren started showing him the way as soon as he arrived.

[JR Ewing]

Originally posted by Russfeld
Adam Carroll only had to beat the scholarship grid, and Dahlgren started showing him the way as soon as he arrived.

I'll agree on that, Carroll looked good sure, but how much was 'real?' He didn't look a star for the previous couple of years, did he?

Vortex - please don't assume that I'll state guesses as facts....you will be mistaken

I don't think Dan Eagling will win, just that he desreves too. They only put him in to try to restore some credibility to the competition...

[Sato san]

well Carroll looked good in his debut F3 race the year before at the British GP support race , so i dont think his performances are not real at all....

i will go for Carroll , maybe Green if not .

[Extra Rib]

Adam gets my vote - having met him at circuits on race weekends he was always available to talk to us more mortals that are spectators. I then met him at a kart race in Milton Keynes where he raced for Autosport and he was most approachable and informative to both me and my twelve year old daughter. His results this season speak for themselves. Getting at the front of the grid in front of championship cars isn't just a result of him using Jag's old F3 cars - it's down to talent.

[nev]

Originally posted by Extra Rib
Getting at the front of the grid in front of championship cars isn't just a result of him using Jag's old F3 cars - it's down to talent.

Yes it was !!! - staying on the cicut during the race is down to talent !!

[Extra Rib]

his results speak for themselves - how consistent was he

[nev]

ok if hes that good how come he didn't win his first A class f3 outing unlike other british f3 stars who didn't win the young driver award

[nev]

question -- didn't Westley Barber try a bit of f3 a couple of years ago !!!!
if so surely he can't be nominated forthe award !!
im sure you will all tell me if im wrong also adam carol has done a race in f3 ok it may not be included cos it was a support race blah blah

[JR Ewing]

They alter the rules to suit who they want in and who they don't Nev.

[nev]

my point exactly !!

[littleman]

Tell me how a so called panel of experts could have chosen Steven Kane over Robbie Kerr? Clearly,by definition, every one of the annual nominees is talented but how could anybody with an ounce of motorsport knowledge fail to get that one right.For me the award lacks integrity and therefore credability.So what if the best driver has nothing but the £50k towards a future budget - clearly the money and the status of 'real' recognition can only help the cause.As long as drivers like Steven Kane are chosen the award has little true value.

[Russfeld]

Im not sure the title means anything. Are MclarenAutosport drivers being awarded reduced cost drives or free test because of that Diploma? If so its because of the results that got them th award. The title imo is meaningless

[littleman]

My point entirely.The award,if properly administered,should have so much status that F1 team managers would be seen forming an orderly queue at the recipients table!I doubt Ron Dennis can even remember Steven Kanes name and whats more probably doesn't care much either.Do you think Ron will turn up on the test day fuelled with excitement - nah,neither do I.It shouldn't be this way if the 'experts' had the balls to go for the real star of tomorrow.All you have to be is bloody quick - period.