Non Contact Sport?

[theracegypsy]

I have just read an article by Randy Pobst, in Sports Car, the in house magazine of SCCA (Sports Car Club of America).

Link: http://www.sportscarmag-digital.com/...ar/201112#pg18

It reminded me that I stopped marshalling BTTC after reporting a side to side contact being told by Race Control "Oh, we are not doing anything about it, It looks good on TV."

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by theracegypsy

I have just read an article by Randy Pobst, in Sports Car, the in house magazine of SCCA (Sports Car Club of America).

And yet others will tell you that "rubbing *is* racing"

[gravel_monkey]

fair point but what we all tend to know, sounds like a sensible racer to me, just what can be done.age old question

[rbs]

Bob, you will be pleased to know things have not changed at BTCC meetings, a similar incident happened at Silverstone a few weeks ago and the clerks came back and said "it was robust but fair"

[Clive Brown]

What's this? Surely not in the Banging and Terminal Carnage Championship?

[deadsquirrel]

Good article.

Aussie V8's have a very strong system of penalties for contact.

NASCAR is obviously the model for "rubbin's racing".

Club racers seem to follow BTCC standards, and certainly the support series on the BTCC bill are seeing the wrong behaviours and low/no penalties.

One lap of close racing, then contact that kills the race is way less interesting (to me) than a whole race without contact that is close (but fair and honest).

[Les Green]

Originally Posted by Guinness2702

And yet others will tell you that "rubbing *is* racing"

I thought that was called stock car racing?

Some interesting articles lately in Motorsport from Sir Jackie Stewart about contact in F1. We all know the important work he (and others) have done in respect of safety in motorsport. I agree with him penalties that are proper penalties for offenders.

What happens at the top levels will surely be coppied by the yougsters coming through. Its only a question of time before we have more tragedies.

[skeee]

Originally Posted by Les Green

I thought that was called stock car racing?

Some interesting articles lately in Motorsport from Sir Jackie Stewart about contact in F1. We all know the important work he (and others) have done in respect of safety in motorsport. I agree with him penalties that are proper penalties for offenders.
What happens at the top levels will surely be coppied by the yougsters coming through. Its only a question of time before we have more tragedies.

As entertaining as it may sometimes be I think Les has a fair point.

If we let the 'pros' get away with it, then what sort of example does that set!

[Dan Friel]

When talking BTCC and contact, don't forget this (from the Blue Book):

2.2. Variation to Judicial Procedures. By sanction of the
MSC the Regulations for the British Touring Car
Championship are permitted to vary the judicial
procedures in respect only of driving offences contrary
to General Regulation 1.1.5 or 1.1.6 in order that:
(a) Penalties not referred to in the these Regulations
may be imposed.
and/or
(b) The structure of Appeals and consequential
procedures permitted by the applicable
Regulations for the Championship may be varied
from that contained in these Regulations.
2.2.1. In the above event the current British Touring Car
Championship Regulations will replace the part or
parts of these Regulations that have been varied.

Playing by different rules!

[PVDA]

This sound bite from Days of Thunder kind of explains it all.

http://www.dailywav.com/0201/rubbin.wav

"No, he didn't slam into you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you. He rubbed you. And rubbin', son, is racin'." [Robert Duvall (Harry Hogge)]

[Shelagh]

Bill & I have a running joke that motor racing is a "non-contact sport", but let's face it, a bit of "rubbing" makes it more interesting. What is difficult is how much "rubbing" you allow.

It makes for good TV but I agree that it sends a wrong message to the juniors who see it as OK during their own races.

And who is going to tell Lewis Hamilton that maybe F1 ain't the place for it?

[Stuart H]

Originally Posted by theracegypsy

I have just read an article by Randy Pobst, in Sports Car, the in house magazine of SCCA (Sports Car Club of America).

Link: http://www.sportscarmag-digital.com/...ar/201112#pg18

It reminded me that I stopped marshalling BTTC after reporting a side to side contact being told by Race Control "Oh, we are not doing anything about it, It looks good on TV."

one has to ask the question: When will driving standards improve before someone is seriously hurt or even killed?

[Les Green]

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And who is going to tell Lewis Hamilton that maybe F1 ain't the place for it?[/QUOTE]

And what happens when Lewis doesn't do any 'rubbing?'
He wins the race.

Like they say the fastest way around a race track is - Keep it on the black stuff / shiney side up / and aiming at nothing in particular

[Wet marshal]

Originally Posted by theracegypsy

I have just read an article by Randy Pobst, in Sports Car, the in house magazine of SCCA (Sports Car Club of America).

Link: http://www.sportscarmag-digital.com/...ar/201112#pg18

It reminded me that I stopped marshalling BTTC after reporting a side to side contact being told by Race Control "Oh, we are not doing anything about it, It looks good on TV."

I was a P/c at The final Silverstone BTCC Round in October,and the Reports that I submitted,were acted on, 2 for deliberate "rubbing" & 1 for causing a spin & dangerous driving
All drivers were given drive through's by the Clerk of the course.(One had his licence endorsed)......The clerks are listening to us.