AMRS Round 2 (merged)

wishbone · 18 Apr 2006, 11:41 (Ref:1587566)

Just got this on the email

entries for round 2

tcc = 21
thunder sport = 15
f4000 = 10
ptcc = 11
kingswood = 19
BMW E30 = 17
lotus 500 = 18

pplater · 18 Apr 2006, 11:43 (Ref:1587568)

Sounds solid.

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 12:00 (Ref:1587585)

Ahemmm Ummmm....what happened to the Stockcars?

storyline · 18 Apr 2006, 12:42 (Ref:1587629)

Interesting numbers - compared to the last time each of these categories ran at Wakefield:

TCC - Nov 2005 - 24 (down 3)
PTCC - no real comparison except for the PTCC early 2005 - 15
F4000 - 13 (the real quesiton should not be how many entered, but how many front to race 1.
Kingswoods - Nov 2005 - 20
BMW E30 - pinch from the VMRS so no comparison
Lotus 500 - last time MoPro ran the event (2003) - 24 cars - surprisingly Wakefield were very public in their 'They will not run that event at this track again' - I believe there even threads here, and talk around NSW, that some of MoPro's cars had been 'confiscated' by Wakefield (and QLD Raceway) for 'monies owing' - GTR, you have those details don't you?
Thunder Sport - depends on what yu want to compare them to. If last Nov's meeting ) Hossack et al - 14 cars.

alfacors · 18 Apr 2006, 12:54 (Ref:1587636)

Might be worth the trek down this weekend after all.
Disappointed they had to borrow the E30 series from Vic - but I'm sure the BMW boys will be happy to grab the opportunity. Can anyone tell me what the racing is like in the BMW series?

Only 18 Lotuseseseses is a worry. How many will still be hauling after 228 laps?

storyline · 18 Apr 2006, 13:31 (Ref:1587663)

The 2003 event saw 16 finishers in a combined Daewoo and MG F field from an original 24 entries with 23 starters - 1 MG DNS, 2 MG's DNF and 5 Daewoo's DNF'd. However due to the idiocy of that event it only went for 6 hours or 198 laps instead of the scheduled 228 laps.

alfacors · 18 Apr 2006, 13:47 (Ref:1587671)

I dare say the Lotuses would be a touch more reliable than the Daewoos..... the old Lanos' were pretty tired and ratty by 2003....even more so now

Are the entry lists online yet? I'm curious to see who makes up these numbers.

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 20:15 (Ref:1587931)

I would then think the Stockcars and the OZBoss are dead in the water(shame about the Stockcars), then the AMRS series will probably last till July-Aug by my calculations.

Peak Revs · 18 Apr 2006, 20:38 (Ref:1587958)

tsk, tsk Robert. With the AMRS you are dealing with Mick Ronke, Bob Jane, John Tetley, Gary Willmington, Rod Dale. etc, a more determied bunch of blokes you will not see.

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 20:49 (Ref:1587966)

Peak Revs...my prediction is Jul-Aug, so far two catergories do not exist after one catergory,(Stockcars) Sam Dale said were supposed to be getting a lot of enquiries. The rest of the bill looks very poor indeed.

Dirk · 18 Apr 2006, 21:38 (Ref:1588015)

Aren't some of the categories alternating between rounds? I know the Ozboss don't start until round 3.

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 21:53 (Ref:1588034)

Yes but the Stockcars were supposed to be on this round AFTER bring delayed from the First round....not good.

Guest · 18 Apr 2006, 22:26 (Ref:1588077)

Robert, again your theories confuse me. One category isn't running, the others have all grown and you are saying the series is doomed. Very very confusing!

storyline · 18 Apr 2006, 22:26 (Ref:1588078)

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Originally Posted by Peak Revs

tsk, tsk Robert. With the AMRS you are dealing with Mick Ronke, Bob Jane, John Tetley, Gary Willmington, Rod Dale. etc, a more determied bunch of blokes you will not see.

Ahhh but Mick Bob and John are only in it as promoters - they have nothing to lose but another weekend they can hire the track out to someone else.

Willmington is there as a partner but also as a Wakefield Rep.

Dale is the one who has most to lose and by all accounts from earlier GTR postings this amounts to a lot!

Peak Revs · 18 Apr 2006, 22:59 (Ref:1588111)

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Originally Posted by storyline

Ahhh but Mick Bob and John are only in it as promoters - they have nothing to lose but another weekend they can hire the track out to someone else.

Willmington is there as a partner but also as a Wakefield Rep.

Dale is the one who has most to lose and by all accounts from earlier GTR postings this amounts to a lot!

You may be right in Bob, Mick, Garry and John being the promoters, but they also have a vested interest through the sanctioning body. It is their best interest that this series grows, just look at the VMRC for sheer determination if you are looking for a precedent.

Peak Revs · 18 Apr 2006, 23:01 (Ref:1588113)

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Originally Posted by Guest

Robert, again your theories confuse me. One category isn't running, the others have all grown and you are saying the series is doomed. Very very confusing!

Robert is very confused with this one because he can't make a relationship between AMRS and NASCAR.

storyline · 18 Apr 2006, 23:25 (Ref:1588137)

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Originally Posted by Peak Revs

You may be right in Bob, Mick, Garry and John being the promoters, but they also have a vested interest through the sanctioning body. It is their best interest that this series grows, just look at the VMRC for sheer determination if you are looking for a precedent.

Granted - forgot about that aspect of it.

Although it still rests more heavily on Dales and, to a lesser extent, Willmingtons shoulders rather than the other three - after all - if the AMRS fails, there is nothing to stop any of those circuits picking up the pieces for themselves, is there?

As a side question - given the history with Oran Park - why isn't Tony Perich and Oran Park involved in this?

wishbone · 18 Apr 2006, 23:45 (Ref:1588148)

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Originally Posted by storyline

PTCC - no real comparison except for the PTCC early 2005 - 15.

Early 2005?? the series only started racing this year. one race calder.

Should be interesting as there is a 2 aflas entered a 147 GTA and a 156, a proton satri 2 honda integras.

Missing is Meidecke, he doing targa this weekend. and GRAY whos team has a comittment at sandown.

Luke Searle 2006 BMW 130
Natalie Willmington 2002 Mitsubishi Magna
Peter Kelly 2006 BMW 130
Jason Sinai Alfa 147 GTA
Roland McIntosh 2005 Peugeot
Tony Saliba 2000 Nissan Pulsar ST
Graham Roylett 2001 Proton Satria Gti
David Capraro Alfa 156 GTA
Len Cave Honda Integra Type R
Neil Byers 2006 Mitsubishi Magna
Andrew Tendli Honda Integra Type R

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 23:46 (Ref:1588149)

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Robert, again your theories confuse me. One category isn't running, the others have all grown and you are saying the series is doomed. Very very confusing!

TWO Catergories are not running and the rest that is left is not at all exciting.

Robert Ryan · 18 Apr 2006, 23:49 (Ref:1588153)

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Robert is very confused with this one because he can't make a relationship between AMRS and NASCAR

Peak Revs and Guest you sound like the same person

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Although it still rests more heavily on Dales and, to a lesser extent, Willmingtons shoulders rather than the other three - after all - if the AMRS fails, there is nothing to stop any of those circuits picking up the pieces for themselves, is there?

I agree with Storyline on this one. My prediction Jul-Aug it will cease.

storyline · 19 Apr 2006, 00:29 (Ref:1588176)

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Originally Posted by wishbone

Early 2005?? the series only started racing this year. one race calder.

Too much red wine - wasn't too clear.

Correct - this is a new series and, as such, there is no direct comparison with any previous fields BUT the Australian Production Car Championship would come closest and they were the figures I quoted for last year.

Although Calder's round of this PTCC series wasn't exactly earth shattering, was it (and yes I can hear the replies now - not everyone was ready - but stop and think about this for a minute - we keep hearing this same old argument every time 'We didn't have the car ready', 'the engine wasn't back' - and then we get to the end of the eyar and guess what? the excuses become 'We are getting ready for next year').

SamDale · 19 Apr 2006, 00:57 (Ref:1588186)

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

TWO Catergories are not running

G'day Robert,

Oz BOSS was never down to race at this Wakefield Park round. The Oz BOSS calendar (available on the site: www.ozboss.net) starts at Winton May 6-7.

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

the rest that is left is not at all exciting.

I guess that is a matter of opinion. Come along to Wakefield Park and judge for yourself, or watch it on Speedweek in a week or so.

Guest · 19 Apr 2006, 01:23 (Ref:1588204)

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Peak Revs and Guest you sound like the same person

Not the same person, but obviously share similar opinions!

Peak Revs · 19 Apr 2006, 02:37 (Ref:1588234)

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Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Peak Revs and Guest you sound like the same person

Definitely not Robert, but it isn't hard to pick your continuing reference to NASCAR.

Guest · 19 Apr 2006, 04:18 (Ref:1588283)

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Originally Posted by Peak Revs

NASCAR

I am not game to mention the 'N' word, last time I did I got a warning

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