2020 ETCR series, first global multi-brand racing series for electric touring cars

Racing Harz · 2 Mar 2018, 11:27 (Ref:3805193)

The future is now - the E TCR!
https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...-racer-reveal/
https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...c-touring-car/

luckn002 · 2 Mar 2018, 11:35 (Ref:3805195)

Hopefully the racing's as good as the car looks!

NaBUru38 · 2 Mar 2018, 14:44 (Ref:3805242)

I wonder which parts will be spec and which will be free.

Drivetrain? Chassis? Suspension/brakes?

Fechna · 2 Mar 2018, 19:02 (Ref:3805295)

300-500 kw power output... this car could be a monster.

I hope the races are longer then 10min long.

850Estate · 2 Mar 2018, 19:58 (Ref:3805304)

I really can't see myself being interested in a race without noise. If the racing is decent, and they avoid the FE-esque dreadful street tracks, 'fan-boosts' and manufacturers congratulating themselves on how great they are, I might give it a chance.

A world electric championship is a bit of a joke though, unless someone invents electric planes.

Akrapovic · 4 Mar 2018, 13:09 (Ref:3805703)

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Originally Posted by 850Estate

A world electric championship is a bit of a joke though, unless someone invents electric planes.

Rolls Royce, Airbus, Boeing, Siemens, JetBlue, EasyJet are all investing in electric planes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-siemens-team/

ETCR looks good. If we can get 30 minute races out of them then that's all that's needed for touring cars. Still would miss noise and gears mind you. It'll be sad when we don't have noise anymore.

Racing Harz · 6 Mar 2018, 16:27 (Ref:3806299)

- 4/5-door production touring cars
- Electric motor with 300kW of continuous power and 500kW of max power @ 12000 rpm
- Battery capacity: 65 kWh 800V
- Transmission: rear-wheel drive, single gear
- Front suspension: McPherson strut
- Rear suspension: Double Wishbonehttp://tcr-series.com/index.php/news...hnical-details

**FIRE** · 21 Oct 2018, 19:06 (Ref:3858201)

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The ETCR series, the first global multi-brand racing series for electric Touring Cars, has been officially launched today at Circuit Barcelona-Catalunya.

A restricted number of guests, including representatives of car manufacturers, automotive suppliers and media, gathered at the ETCR hospitality unit located inside the paddock, in the frame of the GT Open and TCR Europe final event.

Marcello Lotti, President of WSC, introduced the ETCR concept that will have its own championship in 2020.

“In the wake of the global success achieved by TCR and being aware of the automotive market’s current trend towards a new and responsible mobility, two years ago WSC Technology embarked on this ambitious project with the aim of educating the motorsport community in making contact with these new technologies that represent the future reality.”

“The ETCR applies electric power units to the very same chassis concept of TCR cars. It is already attracting the interest of different car manufacturers that also regard it as a tool to restore the role of motorsport as a platform for research & development that can transfer experience and innovations to the standard products.”

“Our ultimate goal is to show the fans that electric car races are as entertaining as those for the internal combustion-engined cars. And we would like to highlight the deep involvement of CUPRA in the overall project from a technical point of view. The cooperation between WSC and SEAT began from the inception of the TCR concept and has now taken a further step forward during this project with the development of the first racing car built in compliance with the ETCR technical regulations.”

After the press conference the guests witnessed the CUPRA e-Racer in a dynamic demonstration and then moved to the pit lane for having a close look at the first fully electric touring car.

CUPRA is the first brand that has developed and presented the new technology for the ETCR platform: the e-Racer is powered by two twin-electric motors located over the rear axle, delivering up to 500 kW (680 bhp) and is also equipped with an energy recovery system. Compared to the conventionally powered CUPRA TCR; despite weighing 400 kilos more, it features excellent performance, such as 0-100 km/h acceleration in 3.2s, and 0-200 km/h in 8.2s.

Further details on the event format and the calendar of the ETCR global championship’s maiden season will be unveiled in due course.

http://www.endurance-info.com/en/wsc...k-off-in-2020/

Alfisti · 21 Oct 2018, 20:13 (Ref:3858234)

The big question, for me, is how far will these cars go on a charge? Race distance one hopes but what is race distance?

I consider Formula E a joke because of the having tool change car mid race nonsense, hopefully these boys will not be making the same mistake.

Sodemo · 21 Oct 2018, 21:54 (Ref:3858273)

How much are the cars gonna weigh?

touring fan01 · 21 Oct 2018, 22:32 (Ref:3858282)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

How much are the cars gonna weigh?

400 kgs more than normal TCR

Sodemo · 22 Oct 2018, 06:36 (Ref:3858325)

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

400 kgs more than normal TCR

That’s one overweight racing car.

Alfisti · 22 Oct 2018, 06:55 (Ref:3858328)

400kg? That's frankly ridiculous. Take a Golf, add 400kg to it and you have a Golf that's weighing in near to a full size petrol SUV.

On that basis I'm out, until battery technology moves on...

Not related, and apologies for wandering off topic, but Tesla Model 3 was the 4th best selling car in the USA in September. Now if anyone can slim down an electric car and produce a racer I would put money on Tesla... whether it's on their to do list is unknown.

redshoes · 22 Oct 2018, 07:22 (Ref:3858330)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Not related, and apologies for wandering off topic, but Tesla Model 3 was the 4th best selling car in the USA in September. Now if anyone can slim down an electric car and produce a racer I would put money on Tesla... whether it's on their to do list is unknown.

Have you checked the curb weight of a Tesla? 'Lightweight' or 'slimmed down' is not a phase that springs to mind.

Mark0994 · 22 Oct 2018, 08:39 (Ref:3858348)

More weight=bigger crashes when you loose control=bigger bill for repairs...

Sodemo · 22 Oct 2018, 09:27 (Ref:3858369)

At 1700kg that’s way more than most road sporty hatchbacks. I’d put money on the road car being able to corner quicker. How much did a road going Civic Type R weigh? I think it was between 1200kg and 1300kg depending on the model.

Mark0994 · 22 Oct 2018, 11:10 (Ref:3858389)

1380kg
according to this http://webcarstory.com/tech.php?id=80933

gregc · 22 Oct 2018, 11:47 (Ref:3858397)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

The big question, for me, is how far will these cars go on a charge? Race distance one hopes but what is race distance?

I consider Formula E a joke because of the having tool change car mid race nonsense, hopefully these boys will not be making the same mistake.

Touring car races are generally 20-30 mins - I'd expect these cars to manage that.

As an aside, as of next season car swapping in FE is no more - they will apparently now go a race distance (plus the new car looks great). I'll be giving it a look next season.

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Originally Posted by touring fan01

400 kgs more than normal TCR

Which is presumably why they've given it nearly 700hp! It will be quick in a straight line at least, how well it will brake and go round corners is anyone's guess. Plus, as already mentioned, that much extra weight is likely to make crashes bigger and more expensive.

I'm not convinced by this at the moment, but keeping an open mind...

NaBUru38 · 22 Oct 2018, 14:08 (Ref:3858425)

https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152480

Cinghio44 · 22 Oct 2018, 15:33 (Ref:3858438)

And they will be RWD. Let's give them at least a chance

**FIRE** · 22 Oct 2018, 18:11 (Ref:3858476)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152480

Did a search yesterday but did not find it.
Moved the topic to this one.

**FIRE** · 22 Oct 2018, 18:19 (Ref:3858479)

400 kg heavier but double the power.

antnee · 23 Oct 2018, 07:15 (Ref:3858556)

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Originally Posted by gregc

Touring car races are generally 20-30 mins - I'd expect these cars to manage that.

As an aside, as of next season car swapping in FE is no more - they will apparently now go a race distance (plus the new car looks great). I'll be giving it a look next season.

Which is presumably why they've given it nearly 700hp! It will be quick in a straight line at least, how well it will brake and go round corners is anyone's guess. Plus, as already mentioned, that much extra weight is likely to make crashes bigger and more expensive.

I'm not convinced by this at the moment, but keeping an open mind...

Brakes will be fine - they will utilize a lot of regen from the motor

A lot of the questions being thrown up here are already covered by the Jag I-Pace Trophy,
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...rophy-race-car

NaBUru38 · 23 Oct 2018, 17:49 (Ref:3858658)

FIA WRX proposed an electric class, but Peugeot has left.

I have doubts over the feasabilty of the proposal.

Anyway, Formula E has been much more successful than I predicted.

So let the new challenge begin!

helgi · 23 Oct 2018, 18:56 (Ref:3858687)

When they realise that electricity fans do not care about racing, everybody will be happy, I think.

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