Create a fictional oval on an existing (non-oval) racetrack

[Roninho]

Hi there,
as someone who used to follow CART i Always liked the concept of the Rio speedway, which was an Oval build on an existing track.
See:



So now i created an adapted version of the Ricardo Torme Valencia circuit in a similar style:

It would be a 1.53 mile ''oval'' with no banking. Last corner before s/f would be tricky because there is quite some elevation change. I guess you could change this last corner a bit by having it start earlier and make it a bit more faster corner to keep the rhytm of the oval track better?
Would be a nice addition if Nascar ever takes off (nascar whelen euro series etc.) maybe?

My question to you guys is: Which existing circuits with good facilities (stands, etc.) would offer ''easy'' upgrade possibilities to an additional oval track such as the nelson piquet/rio track and the Valencia track i just showed? Anybody got some nice ideas?

[ECW Dan Selby]

Bahrain could possibly do something not too disimilar? Brands Hatch would also be fun!

Selby

[AoB Special Stage]

Originally Posted by ECW Dan Selby

Bahrain could possibly do something not too disimilar? Brands Hatch would also be fun!

Selby

Bahrain already has a flat oval, made using the two DRS straights.

[Roninho]

I thought of Brands Hatch but figured it would be to short (imo a ''flat'' (no banking) oval for highspeed cars should at least be 1 mile), but actually it is possible with small adaptations to make a Brands Hatch track. Probably the 2nd corner needs some work though because there is now no runoff area.


(link: http://postimg.org/image/5yat4v503/)

I also made 2 other tracks, in France:
Val de Vienne (1.2 mile)
Ledenon (1.0 mile)



(link: http://postimg.org/image/ex8bl2trv)

[Roninho]

And here a crazy idea: Let's use the historical Linas-Montlhéry oval... No obviously not the 50+ degree banked oval ( ) but use the grass next to the oval track to add new tarmac and have a 1.5 mile (probably 50-100 meters less) flat oval, with the old banked oval used as ''runoff'' area in case of a crash.





Room enough for a track. Probably 2 million USD for 1.5 mile of tarmac though...

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Pembrey in South Wales is just crying out to be oval-ified,in a 1.98km (I'm sure my margin for error would make it 2km. Or 1.237 miles ...which is close enough to make it a 1 & 1/4 mile oval

Oh did I mention it's got 4 distinct corners.

[SpeedingTortoise]

There is only one way to turn Hockenheim into an oval....

The 3.83mi behemoth.

[Roninho]

Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

Pembrey in South Wales is just crying out to be oval-ified,in a 1.98km (I'm sure my margin for error would make it 2km. Or 1.237 miles ...which is close enough to make it a 1 & 1/4 mile oval

Oh did I mention it's got 4 distinct corners.

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Absolutely love it!

Like the corners (although one of them i imagine will be flat out in an Indycar i would imagie '3,5'' corners), guess the only downfall is the lack of grandstands.

[Roninho]

@ Speedingtortoise: you cut the track of to early or you would have drawn the 1930-1970 (or something like that) track. I think they used the part of the long circuit without the chicanes, however they did not end the oval at the current ''stadium section & sf'', but continued (so over the current highway). Actually i think in your screenshot you can still see a part of the old track continuing crossing the highway.

Anyway, absolutely insane to drive on such a track back then. And obviosly never going to be accepted again in current times.

Hereby a version of the paris track as described in an earlier post:

[SpeedingTortoise]

Originally Posted by Roninho

@ Speedingtortoise: you cut the track of to early or you would have drawn the 1930-1970 (or something like that) track. I think they used the part of the long circuit without the chicanes, however they did not end the oval at the current ''stadium section & sf'', but continued (so over the current highway). Actually i think in your screenshot you can still see a part of the old track continuing crossing the highway.

I designed the track as if it was going to be built in it's current state with the Tilke redesign.

[SpeedingTortoise]

Sebring can be shortened into an oval. Would be very interesting to see Nascar race on the flat, bumpy concrete.

[Roninho]

Oeh i like that one! Obviously the bumps will make it very tricky. Nice find!

[ScotsBrutesFan]

You could have the second half of the sachsenring in Germany though it's anything but flat...29m high to low points that's best part of 100ft for those that count that way.




Or a bit more conventionally Vallelunga

[Roninho]

Sachsenring would be an insane oval always loved the whole track, just not for car racing.

Vallelunga would be an easy build I'd guess (or is that the track with the big walls surrounding the track).

Slovakiaring would be an obvious one http://www.racingcircuits.info/europ...l#.VWjh94hXerU

[Wild Dog]

What about Magny-Cours and Dijon?

Magny-Cours would require a lot of work though, as there are many buildings on the proposed oval.

[SpeedingTortoise]

I like the Dijon oval because it looks like a similar road course could be made inside a new oval instead of a roval mainly made up of hairpins.
That Magny-Cours oval would work on the redesign I done last year. (Post 358) http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...125705&page=24

[Wild Dog]

Yeah, Magny-Cours could work with your layout. Would be a great track inside the oval as well.

Dijon should work perfectly with the current track on the infield I think. Also here's the circuit layout with the change of direction if the oval goes anti-clockwise as is usually the case. Current layout in white on the infield.

[Tal Aras]

Originally Posted by Roninho

I thought of Brands Hatch but figured it would be to short (imo a ''flat'' (no banking) oval for highspeed cars should at least be 1 mile), but actually it is possible with small adaptations to make a Brands Hatch track. Probably the 2nd corner needs some work though because there is now no runoff area.


(link: http://postimg.org/image/5yat4v503/)

Was there any reason, other than trying to stick to 1 mile, you didn't extend the circuit after Druids, over the Johnny Herbert Bridge and on to Stirlings? That would slightly extend it but would bring the cars back onto start/finish much faster through the Clarke Curve.

[Roninho]

Originally Posted by Wild Dog

Yeah, Magny-Cours could work with your layout. Would be a great track inside the oval as well.

Dijon should work perfectly with the current track on the infield I think. Also here's the circuit layout with the change of direction if the oval goes anti-clockwise as is usually the case. Current layout in white on the infield.

Dijon looks great in your design! Very nice one. Is there much elevation at Dijon?

[Roninho]

Originally Posted by Tal Aras

Was there any reason, other than trying to stick to 1 mile, you didn't extend the circuit after Druids, over the Johnny Herbert Bridge and on to Stirlings? That would slightly extend it but would bring the cars back onto start/finish much faster through the Clarke Curve.

Well i wanted to stay to 1 mile because i fear a 1.5 mile ''oval'' with decent corners would be to fast at the BH setting (since there is quite some elevation changes at BH).

I do think my design has an awfull last corner, so yeah probably your suggestion would be better.

[Wild Dog]

Originally Posted by Roninho

Dijon looks great in your design! Very nice one. Is there much elevation at Dijon?

Not entirely sure, but some 20 metres.

[TheFlyingCaterham]

I've done some ovals with all of the F1 tracks currently on the calender. Some wouldn't work though because of Elevation changes and buildings in the way.
Also, first post here. Probably will stick to the track design section of the forums though :P
Albert Park (1.23mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438364
Sepang (1.43mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438366
Shanghai (1.24mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438367
Bahrain (1.54mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438370
Catalunya (1.81mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438372
Monaco (0.45mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438375
Montreal (2.22mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438376
Red Bull Ring (1.32mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438378
Silverstone (1.95mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438380
Hungaroring (1.07mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438381
Spa-Francorchamps (2.00mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438383
Monza (2.85mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438385
Singapore (1.02mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438387
Suzuka (1.34mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438388
Sochi (1.81mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438391
COTA (1.99mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438392
Mexico City (2.06mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438393
Interlagos (1.52mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438394
Yas Marina (1.04mi) http://www.mappedometer.com/?maproute=438395