Friday practice thread

Sato san · 22 Apr 2005, 09:34 (Ref:1284404)

Bimey , Schumacher just came out and blitzed the Mclarens by 1.6 seconds straight away ....although Pedro has came back with a better time now , he is still quickest ..

Michael looked right on it at maximum attack all the way round ...locking up , oversteer etc ...very exciting . Looks like Michael is all fired up and trying very hard .

just how F1 should be .

Lonicera · 22 Apr 2005, 10:25 (Ref:1284447)

Yes, but what does practice show these days, it's the first time I've followed practice on Live Timing this year. For most of the session, only the 3rd drivers and lowly teams had any presence. Look at the differential in the number of laps, Renault manged 3 laps in total!!
Why, for practice, do the teams have to use their race engines, can't they use other engines and at least put on a show for the poor mugs who have paid $$$ to actually watch the GP ?

Surely this would give a better indicator of who's where in the performance stakes, plus teams would get better set-up's, tyre info, etc, and there wouldn't really be a significant cost increase, as teams have spare engines already, this way the poor old fans might even get to see something !!

I know it'll not happen, but back in the 80's, team had special quali engines and had no problem changing to race engines overnight, it can't take more than an hour or two for an engine change ??

Any thoughts ???

T0MAT01 · 22 Apr 2005, 10:27 (Ref:1284448)

Any news on the two Renaults?

(There's no time shown for them on the live timing site).

strider · 22 Apr 2005, 10:28 (Ref:1284452)

Yeah - they didn't go out!

**Adam43** · 22 Apr 2005, 10:39 (Ref:1284462)

While the fact that people aren't running is important it is discussed elsewhere a lot. What does the non-running show us with respect for this weekend?

Well it seriously hints that Renault are worried (or very cautious) about reliability.

T0MAT01 · 22 Apr 2005, 10:40 (Ref:1284463)

Seems like they're just saving their engines.

(from renaultf1.com)

Quote:

At Renault, the morning session was a typical 2005-style Friday morning: two installation laps for each driver, who wait for the second session to begin their tyre evaluations. Jarno Trulli (Toyota) also used this strategy in Bahrain, and completed just one installation lap this morning.

With only two sets of tyres available to the team on Friday, it is difficult to make reliable comparisons while the track is still dirty.

bigjon · 22 Apr 2005, 10:42 (Ref:1284467)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

While the fact that people aren't running is important it is discussed elsewhere a lot. What does the non-running show us with respect for this weekend?

Well it seriously hints that Renault are worried (or very cautious) about reliability.

probably just very confident

again, the new rules providing poor show for both fans trackside and on TV - no one can argue that no shows on track are good.

hgmonaro · 22 Apr 2005, 10:42 (Ref:1284468)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Well it seriously hints that Renault are worried (or very cautious) about reliability.

or they are extremely confident of their chassis setups...

**chunterer** · 22 Apr 2005, 10:45 (Ref:1284470)

a mClaren and Toyota tester 1-2, then Button and Schuey quite close. Klien best of rest nearly 3/4 second off...

I suspect Schu being flamboyant for the fans...what does Rubens time tell us ensconsed back in the pack?

Sato san · 22 Apr 2005, 11:24 (Ref:1284495)

Rubens didnt look as good...he had an off at Tamberello and went through the gravel ...Kimi did exactly what Michael had done , and came straight out of the box on maximum attack ...the other all built up steadily to their times..apart from Jenson at the end .

Glen · 22 Apr 2005, 11:33 (Ref:1284498)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonicera

I know it'll not happen, but back in the 80's, team had special quali engines and had no problem changing to race engines overnight, it can't take more than an hour or two for an engine change ??

Any thoughts ???

Er, yea - I think you'll find that cost comes into it! There's no problem at all with an engine change, technically - in fact McLaren for one have worked on speedy changes so that they can switch a damaged chassis and keep the race engine and thus not incur a penalty.

Sodemo · 22 Apr 2005, 11:42 (Ref:1284504)

Im sure session 2 will show us a truer picture of each teams performance.

ralf fan · 22 Apr 2005, 11:52 (Ref:1284512)

Yes Michael looked really charged up...going flat out like a rookie looking to make an impression...

From what i saw Jenson Button and BAR looked pretty handy...which is good news...

the Toyota drivers and the Renaults will/should be running in session 2 which will give a clearer indication...

Formula Juan · 22 Apr 2005, 12:03 (Ref:1284521)

bah...I don't think we can take much from this session...I mean Jenson was 3rd...how likely is that gonna happen in qualifying!? :P

sonic · 22 Apr 2005, 12:09 (Ref:1284525)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formula Juan

bah...I don't think we can take much from this session...I mean Jenson was 3rd...how likely is that gonna happen in qualifying!? :P

Another dazzling insight, thanks.

funny as I read that JB was just setting all the purples in session 2 and went to the top for now. I reckon they'll qualify well here.

Dani Filth · 22 Apr 2005, 12:16 (Ref:1284532)

he had pole last year if i remember .

**Adam43** · 22 Apr 2005, 12:18 (Ref:1284533)

Please do not try and just mindlessly destroy threads. This thread is about Friday practice.

Thanks.

Dani Filth · 22 Apr 2005, 12:20 (Ref:1284536)

are renault using this front wing ??
http://www.f1total.com/bilder/2005/g...an/fr/z020.jpg

sonic · 22 Apr 2005, 12:24 (Ref:1284541)

alonso still hasn't turned a wheel in timed practice!

now that must be some sort of record?

**Adam43** · 22 Apr 2005, 12:26 (Ref:1284543)

Dani, well ther are hardly using anything at the moment!

Although that is certainly an interesting wing - it will be interesting (for us and the team) to find out if it does make a difference!

sonic, I can't remember so little tunning (through choice) quite as drastic.

Sodemo · 22 Apr 2005, 12:48 (Ref:1284554)

I am wondering if it might be prudent of Renault to change Alonso's engine before the race, I bet the Bahrain engines are on the edge in terms of thermal damage, why not change the engine and save the risk of dropping out of the race?
Of course this then means 10 places back on the grid, but better than not finishing...

**Adam43** · 22 Apr 2005, 12:51 (Ref:1284557)

Maybe they feel that limited running would provide the required safeguard and give them a new engine next race - in Spain.

Sodemo · 22 Apr 2005, 12:59 (Ref:1284559)

Whoa, Pedro blows them away, 1:20.484.

f1_carzy · 22 Apr 2005, 13:04 (Ref:1284560)

Sato and Button have run nearly 27 laps each, the highest amongst the race drivers. It definitely looks like Honda have got the reliabilty problem sorted!

Hazard · 22 Apr 2005, 13:17 (Ref:1284566)

That or they haven't, and will be putting a new engine in it tonight!

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