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Old 3 Dec 2012, 02:25 (Ref:3174424)   #1
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BMW confirms Z4 GTE for American Le Mans Series
I'm sure this news are buried in some other thread but I think it deserve it own thread with so many questions ahead.

http://www.planetlemans.com/2012/12/...le+Feedfetcher

Will RLL continue with BMW & ALMS?

What will the specs be?

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RLL will no doubt continue their relationship with BMW and race the Z4 in the US for them.
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Old 3 Dec 2012, 02:31 (Ref:3174426)   #3
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Press release from BMW says RLL will be the ALMS team.

Now I can't find the press release ... so i could be wrong.

Doesn't specify RLL
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Old 3 Dec 2012, 03:10 (Ref:3174432)   #4
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http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/new.../wittmann.html
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Old 3 Dec 2012, 16:07 (Ref:3174649)   #5
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Very, Very curious, considering the uncertainty about the rules that will follow the upcoming Grandam/ALMS merger. hope they keep GTE, ALMS really shows the strength of that class..
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Old 3 Dec 2012, 17:25 (Ref:3174666)   #6
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If BMW were as uncertain about those things as we are, then yes, it'd be a very curious decision. But ofcourse there's a good chance that BMW knows a lot more about the way different series and rulesets will be developing than we do!
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Old 3 Dec 2012, 22:21 (Ref:3174765)   #7
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Press release from BMW says RLL will be the ALMS team.

Now I can't find the press release ... so i could be wrong.

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This one from the ALMS certainly implies it!

http://www.alms.com/articles/bmw-mov...s-championship




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Saw that. However, I aspire to a higher level of accuracy and credibility than ALMS.
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This one from the ALMS certainly implies it!

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Implies? They straight out say it!

Curious there has been no word from RLL on this...
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Implies? They straight out say it!

Curious there has been no word from RLL on this...
The previous post is why I phrased it as I did, one can never give any creed to something from the ALMS you know.






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Make them pull 500 hp out of the 3L dammit!
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Old 4 Dec 2012, 04:45 (Ref:3174855)   #12
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Make them pull 500 hp out of the 3L dammit!
Lotus should think about putting a bigger motor in the Evora GTE. Didn't the original GT3 have a Toyota V8 in it.
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The 2005 Exige GT3 had a supercharged 4 pot - There hasn't been an Evora GT3
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Why not the Radical Power 3L V8? It chucks out 500hp so would be good for the Evora....

On topic, BMW could always just twin turbo the I6.
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Make them pull 500 hp out of the 3L dammit!
It'd probably be less expensive to make a run of V8 powered Z4 roadcars.

They make a limited edition run say of 500 cars and every one of them would be sold rather quick regardless of price. Its a shame they havent done this yet.
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On topic, BMW could always just twin turbo the I6.
That's what I'm saying... The rules are written so that the production turbos must be used and that is why no one runs FI. If the rulesmakers are going to be forward thinking, this needs to be revised to be more inclusive of FI.
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It'd probably be less expensive to make a run of V8 powered Z4 roadcars.

They make a limited edition run say of 500 cars and every one of them would be sold rather quick regardless of price. Its a shame they havent done this yet.
To my surprise.
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That's what I'm saying... The rules are written so that the production turbos must be used and that is why no one runs FI. If the rulesmakers are going to be forward thinking, this needs to be revised to be more inclusive of FI.
GTE allow exemptions to any of its 'rules'. Thats how Viper is 8 litre
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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/spor...z4-321569.html
An interesting defense on why the ALMS accepted the Z4 GTE even with the V8.
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Basically saying there won't be a V8 Z4 on the street, at least not for racing it.
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GTE allow exemptions to any of its 'rules'. Thats how Viper is 8 litre
Right, and it is great that it is allowed. The rules should be written so that it is not a waiver for the Viper, but turbos are the future... or back to the future.
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GTE allow exemptions to any of its 'rules'. Thats how Viper is 8 litre
That was a mistake in the rules in my opinion. They used to allow such engines, and they should rectify that this off season. At least the Viper runs a V10 on the street. BMW will not offer a V8 in the Z4, effectively making it a silhouette car.

It is a real shame that they chose not to run the I6 TT. I'd far prefer that be BoP'd into being competitive over this solution.
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That was a mistake in the rules in my opinion. They used to allow such engines, and they should rectify that this off season. At least the Viper runs a V10 on the street. BMW will not offer a V8 in the Z4, effectively making it a silhouette car.

It is a real shame that they chose not to run the I6 TT. I'd far prefer that be BoP'd into being competitive over this solution.
Totally agree. That is a much more poignant way to say it.
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BMW will not offer a V8 in the Z4, effectively making it a silhouette car.
A car running a production based frame, transmission, suspension is a silhouette car? So the C6.R Vette is a sihouette car then too I guess. That's a little extreme.
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