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14 Jun 2003, 15:31 (Ref:631326)
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Willhire 9 hour
Not far away now.
Me and Andrew will be there hopefully with Elton as last year. So who else is going...........i'm asking everyone...pit crew, marshals, photo guys, especially pit floozies lol (remember andrews married i'm not). Also whats this about it being a 200 min + 300 min race anyone ? Awaiting reply. MP |
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14 Jun 2003, 21:04 (Ref:631563)
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I'll be there - any idea of the race start/fin' times please? Have to work probably until 1.30pm so wont get there til' late.
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15 Jun 2003, 16:00 (Ref:632019)
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If it was a straight race all the way through you'd have to put the marshals on shifts, hence you'd need more of them.
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15 Jun 2003, 17:49 (Ref:632094)
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sorry mate - I was going to attempt ETCC and Willhire but ETCC got my vote.
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15 Jun 2003, 20:36 (Ref:632267)
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Shall be there marshaling, have heard two different versions of why race split but which if any is correct not sure. Any idea of number and quality of entry? hope the whether matches the 24Hr weather we have just had
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15 Jun 2003, 20:39 (Ref:632278)
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I heard this weekend that they were to split the race into two? WHY?! Think that just about confirmed my lack of interest... I like proper endurance racing but it just sounds ridiculous splitting it this way!
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15 Jun 2003, 21:16 (Ref:632313)
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dear craig...
the reason is simple a thing called a BLUE book and as a clerk you now know why there are two races... and as an endurance racer who managed to get 6 Britcar teams at midnight at the Ring to first in their classes I khow and am very disappointed, may be it is time for people to help the cause........ |
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15 Jun 2003, 21:25 (Ref:632323)
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Well we managed to cope (still not sure how) this weekend with very limited numbers on the bank. enjoy yourself Mr Tucker? and do you know where you finished? I gather timing had a slight hiccup!! am looking forward to 9hr, think i could be busy on the blue flag for the races!
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15 Jun 2003, 21:30 (Ref:632334)
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you will need 2 flags....
yes I did enjoy the spirit of the sport, it is alive and well... sleep well.... |
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15 Jun 2003, 21:34 (Ref:632339)
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Any chance of seeing the entry list for the race? or anyone know the amount of cars entered and any of the more interesting ones? (Hoping Mr Tucker can say!)
__________________ To blue or not to blue ..that is the question...damn to late!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 38 | From: Norwich | Registered: Nov 2002 snetmarshal [ ] Rookie User Online 9 Jun 2003 23:03 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just now seen the race is split, 200 mins to start with then 300mins !! can anyone shed light on whats happening? __________________ To blue or not to blue ..that is the question...damn to late!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 38 | From: Norwich | Registered: Nov 2002 james tucker [ ] Rookie User Online 10 Jun 2003 16:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The final list for entries is being put together... Dunlop/Willhire 500 is a way to help the cars with problems, rejoin the race.........looking forward to seeing you all at snett for the 24hr 2cv this weekend,and I will try to post the entry for the 500 on the office door... sportingly james __________________ britcar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 32 | From: camberley | Registered: May 2003 pauloak10 [ ] Rookie 10 Jun 2003 22:35 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck with this weekend James. Keep the right way up ( in and out of the car !!) Looking forward to the Willhire. Any Marshals interested please contact BRSCC East Anglia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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15 Jun 2003, 21:51 (Ref:632361)
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Perhaps you can explain the content of the Blue Book in relation to this event? I don't have a copy to hand you see...
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15 Jun 2003, 21:55 (Ref:632362)
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Craig, events over a certain time requires more than one shift of trackside personnel. So by beaking the race in two give marshals a standdown of X time therefore meeting Blue Book criteria, and the event can happen.
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15 Jun 2003, 22:20 (Ref:632382)
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The Blue Book says that if there is racing that lasts for more than six hours (can't find the exact wording and in the way of the MSA IIRC it's a bit woolly and open to interpretation) then there must be shifts of marshals and the organisers have to provide stand down facilities for the marshals.
I'd have to say that if the plan is to split the racing as a technicality just to avoid providing facilities/breaks for marshals I'd be against it, if there will be a significant break that allows for standown time etc. then perhaps it's OK. |
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16 Jun 2003, 11:29 (Ref:632821)
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Mr Tucker, sir, could you advise the length of the gap between the races, and will it mean we might see some dusk/night-time action ?
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16 Jun 2003, 11:44 (Ref:632845)
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I will be there marshaling, the first time I have been involved with the Willhire or anything longer than 4 hours so I'm looking forward to it. Hope it's dry but not too hot!!
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16 Jun 2003, 12:03 (Ref:632878)
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Steve, I doubt you'll have night racing, but dusk racing is always fun
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16 Jun 2003, 16:47 (Ref:633182)
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Claire Remember to wave every lap to car 27 (silver Marcos), we may even remember to wave back once in 9 hours lol  MP PS about 7 hours in, if it's hot, a nice lager and lime will go down a treat, i'm sure my team manager will not mind me stopping for 5 mins, after all its a long race. |
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16 Jun 2003, 21:40 (Ref:633549)
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Martin not sure what post I will be on, poss bombhole, anychance when you start the stints you could pick up some drinks from the bar and drop them off?
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16 Jun 2003, 22:15 (Ref:633593)
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17 Jun 2003, 07:49 (Ref:633854)
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Martin, I think I should be on the start line somewhere so I will rememeber to give you a wave, looking forward to it. After 7 hours I think we will all be requiring some sort of alcohol!!
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18 Jun 2003, 18:09 (Ref:635768)
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Entry list now up on the EERC website. Obviously some teams still need to find extra drivers.
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19 Jun 2003, 08:48 (Ref:636358)
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Not us though Steve, we have seven drivers for our two cars, so will definately be there....our problem is that whilst the Lotus is ready to roll, the Alfa is still in its post-Nurburgring 24H state, so a few all nighters coming up...
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19 Jun 2003, 19:42 (Ref:636925)
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Nigel Greensall down as third driver in both the Beighton/Finnemore Mantis, and the Allen/Kempton M3. If the liberal EERC rules allow this, then Nigel (British racing's best kept secret) could be a considerable influence, since these are both potential winners.
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20 Jun 2003, 21:50 (Ref:638049)
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Greensall actually raced the spare car a number of times alongside Kempton a few years ago so they know each other very well-watchout boys cos I think the Allen/Kempton/Greensall car could upset the applecart!
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24 Jun 2003, 12:30 (Ref:641406)
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I was going to go, I was down to drive Ben Salmon's Proton, but got booted out due to politics, I was then trying to sort out a deal to drive the same Fiesta that I drove last year, but decided not to go through with it as I am stil recovering from the 24hr - financially and physically, so
I'll be doing the 2CV "endurance" race at Lydden instead. This endurance race is another that's being split into two - it's going to be 2 30min races because the pitlane there is not big enough to cope with driver changes. Anyway, to everyone involved in the Willhire - all the best to you and I hope you have as much fun as we did in the 2CV 24hr race last weekend. Next year they're uprating the Willhire car classes to be over 2 litres, these will be well out of my financial league so I guess last year was my one and only chance to "do teh Willhire" and I am so pleased I did because it was a hoot. :-) Christine |
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