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9 Sep 2008, 11:26 (Ref:2285486) | #1 | ||
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Dave i might consider entering one of the races but im not intrested in rolling starts as i think they are un fair and benifit the front few cars.[/quote]
The biggest advantage of a rolling start has to go to little light weight Front wheel drives, unlike a standing start which has to be biassed towards the bigger rwds. Any whay are you not in the front few cars you should be |
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9 Sep 2008, 11:44 (Ref:2285499) | #2 | ||
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Big dave the only time a rolling start should be used is for non gear box carts, where if the pack is spread out they get sent around again.
If rolling starts are that good why is the majority of circuit raceing standing? As for stress on the car will you want rolling start for an auto test ,sprinting and rallying i think not. I could debate this for hours ! |
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robie if done properly a roller is buy far the fairer way of starting ,the problem is drivers try to hold back to gain a run on the guy in front.this then puts the guys behind at a disadvantage.the officials do make us go round again if they feel the grid is too spread out but that just decreases the race distance which is not fair on everyone, but you cant go round all day to get the grid right because of a few opertunists..
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Woody you have some very good points should we start a new thread, we will get some very intresting replies ?
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when we first strated doing rolling starts a number of years ago, a lot of drivers werent keen on them, nowdays the vast majority are in agreement it is a safer way to start a race, especially one with big grids |
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9 Sep 2008, 16:18 (Ref:2285716) | #6 | |
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when we first strated doing rolling starts a number of years ago, a lot of drivers werent keen on them, nowdays the vast majority are in agreement it is a safer way to start a race, especially one with big grids[/quote]
Perhaps we could have a vote at years end by all registered drivers and go with the majority next year? |
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fact though this wouldnt of happened on a rolling start http://www.rodbirley.com/images/100_0131.jpg Last edited by graham bahr; 9 Sep 2008 at 16:52. |
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Unfortunatly rolling starts or standing there are accidents, from time to time.
I thought the real benifit of a rolling start was that you are able to have larger grids. Hence catering for the larger DMN grids. |
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If rolling starts are that good why is the majority of circuit raceing standing?
As for stress on the car will you want rolling start for an auto test ,sprinting and rallying i think not. I could debate this for hours ![/quote] would love rolling starts in Autotesting if this was the case would not of left all my new sump oil in brands paddock then!!!! the biggest problem is a rolling start from forwards to backwards and vise versa |
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I prefer standing starts
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done plenty of both, i have noticed rolling ones i pretty much keep my grid position, but have on occassion made up a huge number of places from a standing start, i once made up 13 places from the start to the first corner at silverstone with only 190bhp, it was a great start but at the same time pretty scary as i zig zagged around cars that didnt made it away properly that could of very easily ended up in tears
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Well I've not seen anything as such in the bluebook...
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Long distance races can have more starters (with a rolling start), such as the Britcar 24hours.
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Why not do both on the same event? 1 standing, 1 rolling, everybody happy. Or unhappy.
Used to hate rolling starts. |
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10 Sep 2008, 05:45 (Ref:2286234) | #20 | ||
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Why dont we half half the grid doing standing and half doing rolling starts,great fun,everyone happy and that would fill the grand stands.
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yes could even have a pit stop after 5 mins say change 2 wheels.
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10 Sep 2008, 07:47 (Ref:2286273) | #22 | ||
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Now as long as what type of starts , race lenght , points scoreing, etc are published before you sign up for any championship it dose not matter. One must choose which championship you want to do. DMN is good value on track time, with lots of little add on's.
Its been intresting looking at all your comments, and ive enjoyed my first participation. Ive enjoyed the DMN series for the last 2 years especially the 2 days events. |
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10 Sep 2008, 08:46 (Ref:2286299) | #23 | |
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I agree with Eddy and think that we should take a leaf out of the WTCC book, 1st race is always a Rolling Start, 2nd race is always a Standing Start. Half the wear on clutches and by doing it in that order more chance that you will start the 2nd race.
We should also seriously consider copying their reversing the first 8 finishing places from the 1st race, for the grid for the 2nd race. In DMN we could still do this regardless of class. Thirdly we could copy their success weight ballast, it is currently being ironed out for next year to be a set amount for a win or a podium place. |
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I don't like standing starts either.
I prefer to sit. |
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Some good points Ash but does DMN really need to play with things to get good racing? Wherever I look in the races there are always battles going on even if it is inter-class battles.
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