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Old 24 Jul 2004, 22:30 (Ref:1046011)   #1
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DJR to Holden?

I haven't seen it but there is supposed to be a story in a Sydney paper that DJR are considering moving to Holden.
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Old 24 Jul 2004, 22:53 (Ref:1046039)   #2
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The Sunday Mail (Brisbane) is running a story today from Winton :-
DJR to Holden
Tander to DJR
Lowndes to DJR
CAT to DJR or to take over DJR.
Holden are denying any contact.

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Old 24 Jul 2004, 23:32 (Ref:1046063)   #3
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Old 24 Jul 2004, 23:38 (Ref:1046066)   #4
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Yes it is in the Sunday Telegraph, here in NSW, an article by Ray Kershler, who is usually very spot on with his information.
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Old 24 Jul 2004, 23:53 (Ref:1046069)   #5
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Old 24 Jul 2004, 23:55 (Ref:1046070)   #6
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Kershler usually reports on what we read in here and what is posted on the V8 website........he did a piece on lowndes a week after it was in AA
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Re: DJR to Holden?

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I haven't seen it but there is supposed to be a story in a Sydney paper that DJR are considering moving to Holden.
Maybe you read about it on V8Central ?
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 00:07 (Ref:1046080)   #8
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The QLD feature is written by Gordon Lomas and has a bit more information than the Ray Kershler piece. There isn't a link that I can find.
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 00:22 (Ref:1046096)   #9
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well the bloke who runs prodrive is here in Oz this weekend and he has stated that they want Craig for next year for sure and its up to them to prove to craig that they can do the job.

he is also a Ford contracted driver so i suspect he will stay with the blue oval.

Now DJR to Holden ????

My goodness that seems a tad far fetched doesnt it but you never know but im sure Dick would stay with Ford but ive been known to be wrong before
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 01:11 (Ref:1046125)   #10
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This would have happened had PWR purchased the assets and race team of DJR.... but they didnt so they wont....

DJR does not enormous support from the Ford Motor Company, indeed the financial involvement on a per car basis is said to be similar to the contributions supplied to Ellery, BJR etc, where there is some signage on the car, but is not a major financial supporter in the same manner Ford is with 888, SBR & FPR....

Interestingly DJR came within a beesd!ck of losing Ford support altogether at the start of this season, previous seasons' results firmly in Ford's mind, with only the influx of overseas technical talent in place to save them from a loss of funding....

The noise around suggests Ford knows there are a couple of recalcitrants in the DJR management structure, and that these are holding back the team. The way the story goes, Ford wanted a personnel change before they committed to DJR, with the imports the swinger, but the basis of the issue they perceive is still there.

A switch to Holden could happen, but it depends how strongly Ford wants to keep the iconic nameplate... indeed I wouldnt mind buying it... (my initials would allow it to remain DJR, regardless of who else was involved... )
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 01:26 (Ref:1046130)   #11
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This is probably more a negotiating ploy to squeeze ford for more money rather than a real deal. But I think everyone knows some changes have to take place at DJR, what the end result will be who knows?
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 02:55 (Ref:1046172)   #12
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It's not the first time that DJ has threatened to change camp , with DJRs performance over the past few years there would seem to be little loss at the front of the field - How much better would they expect to be by running Commodores ?? - they still haven't come to grips with the BA after two seasons !!
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 03:06 (Ref:1046180)   #13
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Didn't DJ's father own a Holden dealership?
Maybe deep down DJ is a Holden man, hehe
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 08:22 (Ref:1046403)   #14
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There was the same story going around after Johnson and Bowe won Bathurst in 1994. It was used at the time to force Fords hand in giving them some more money, sounds like they are doing the same thing again
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 09:04 (Ref:1046428)   #15
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Let 'em go.

If they think there is a better commercial deal out there, then good luck to DJR.

Until they rid their team of some key personnel internally which hamper progress (and by this I dont necessarily mean the drivers) then the team will not return to their glory days.

And given their enduro driving combinations, I cannot see that the team has the speed, reliability and racecraft to come home in 1st place at the mountain this year

(this will likely come back to haunt me....)
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 09:06 (Ref:1046430)   #16
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Re: Re: DJR to Holden?

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Maybe you read about it on V8Central ?
I actually got a phone call at 6.45AM from a well known forum poster asking if i had seen the article. Trouble is i was still half cut from my birthday party last night. I then searched the forums to see if it had already been posted.
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 09:11 (Ref:1046436)   #17
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Hard to believe when DJR have just entered the performance vehicle market with the Herrod-built 320's.
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Didnt Peter Brock do the EA Falcon mods when running Sierras, then put it all in the bin when turning back to Holdens in 1991?
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 09:37 (Ref:1046455)   #19
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Yep he did, they reckon that the Brock mods where actually a good thing, made the cars handle 100% better.

Back to Dick, it would be a kick in the guts to Ford if he went across to Holden, cause regardless of results he is know as a Ford Team
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Old 25 Jul 2004, 10:04 (Ref:1046482)   #20
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The Sunday Mail (Brisbane) is running a story today from Winton :-
DJR to Holden
Tander to DJR
Lowndes to DJR
CAT to DJR or to take over DJR.
Holden are denying any contact.
The jig saw for this team seems to fit nicely if you believe all the rumours,These days its all about the almighty dollar I'm sure if DJR want to move on its their call I suppose,if they are not being treated right so be it! I like Ray Borrets comment that "no one has approached us " Yeah but has anyone/team approached Holden? This would be as big as Craig Lowndes going to Ford! I wont believe it till it happens tho !
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Hew bondy take a look at this Wonthaggi Holden
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Dicks first race was in a Holden, what do they say about falling from the tree?
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