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20 Aug 2002, 13:15 (Ref:362027)
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F1 "Silly Season."
Speculation/Rumors/Innuendo! These things make "bench-racing" an enjoyable pastime. However, all good things must come to an end! My question is this: When do you all think that we will have a good grip on the driver/team lineups for 2003?
Looking forward to your input and an end to Silly Season so we can begin discussing the wisdom of the signings/firings! |
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20 Aug 2002, 13:58 (Ref:362061)
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this the upteenth time we would be discussing the silly season..
ferrari/williams/macs situation doesnt change. jaguar - alonso & webber jordan - fisichella & irvine totyota - frentzen & sato bar - button & panis sauber - heidfeld & [we will see] minardi - davidson & yoong |
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20 Aug 2002, 14:02 (Ref:362068)
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20 Aug 2002, 14:04 (Ref:362070)
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yeah sorry about that , i just forgot Renault. here's teh revised list, mate. thanks! jaguar - webber & [we will see] renault - alonso & trulli jordan - fisichella & irvine totyota - frentzen & sato bar - button & panis sauber - heidfeld & [we will see] minardi - davidson & yoong |
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20 Aug 2002, 14:06 (Ref:362071)
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Freud - yes I realize this has been discussed a bazillion times, I apologize if I was not clear enough! My question is related to when we would have a firm idea: announcements made, glowing press releases etc. I am not real familiar with the contractual periods used so I am wondering when everything will be firmed up for '03.
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20 Aug 2002, 14:07 (Ref:362072)
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freud: from your list i can see you are enjoying silly season, and no, this is not about my mother
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20 Aug 2002, 14:19 (Ref:362077)
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am i?, really
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20 Aug 2002, 16:18 (Ref:362159)
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Ferrari - M.Schumacher -R.Barichello
Williams- R.Schumacher -J.Montoya Mclaren- D. Coulthard -K.Raikkonen Sauber- N.Heidfeld -J.Verstappen Jordan- G.Fisichella -E.Irvine Jaguar- P.De la Rosa -M.Webber Toyota- M.Salo -T.Takagi BAR- J.Villeneuve -J.Button Renault- J.Trulli -F.Alonso Minardi- A.Davidson -T. Enge Arrows(?)-E.Bernoldi -S.Bourdais |
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20 Aug 2002, 16:28 (Ref:362168)
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Ferrari: M. Schumacher - Rubens Barrichello
McLaren: D. Coulthard - K. Raikkonen Williams: R. Schumacher - J.P. Montoya Renault: F. Alonso - J. Trulli Toyota: M. Salo - C. da Matta Jordan: G. Fisichella - T. Sato (or Eddie Irvine, when Ford wants it to happen) Minardi: J. Wilson - A. Davidson (or Bryan Herta) Jaguar: P. Delarosa - M. Webber Sauber: N. Heidfeld - F. Massa (or H.H. Frentzen when Peter Sauber isn't coming to his senses in time) BAR: J. Villeneuve - J. Button I don't think Arrows will compete in 2003. For the time being its far too early to predict in which form a new team will take its place. Interesting to see that there still are people who list a second rate driver, who couldnt manage to score more than 20 points in 8 seasons, more often than not saw a contract not extended (and the only time it happened, he was released from that contract), and up till now hasn't drove a single mile in a racingcar of any sort from oktober 2001 on. Quite annoying actually. Last edited by NiceGuyEddie; 20 Aug 2002 at 16:29. |
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20 Aug 2002, 17:00 (Ref:362189)
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Hmm, let's see, with numbers as they are in the championship...
Ferrari: 1. M. Schumacher, 2. Barrichello Williams: 3. R. Schumacher, 4. Montoya McLaren: 5. Coulthard, 6. Raikkonen Renault: 7. Trulli, 8. Alonso Sauber: 9. Heidfeld, 10. Massa (I think, but Heinz maybe?) Jordan: 11. Fisichella, 12. Sato (or Irvine, or Heinz) BAR: 14. Villeneuve, 15. Button (don't see JV back to CART) Jaguar: 16. De la Rosa, 17. Webber (PDLR seemed confirmed, but who knows?) Minardi: 18. Herta?, 19. (as always, who knows) Toyota: 20. Salo, 21. da Matta (or HHF, or Irvine, or McNish even) Arrows? Phoenix anyone? |
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20 Aug 2002, 23:27 (Ref:362564)
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I would not be surprised if Webber goes somewhere other than Jaguar. Just remember who told you first.
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21 Aug 2002, 08:46 (Ref:362722)
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21 Aug 2002, 09:12 (Ref:362736)
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Sauber - Heidfeld & Frentzen
Jordan - Fisichella & Sato Jaguar - De La Rosa & Webber Toyota - Salo & McNish BAR - Villeneuve & Button Minardi - Yoong & a new guy Arrows - Bernoldi & a new guy |
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21 Aug 2002, 09:22 (Ref:362741)
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This from friend of Dancing Machine
Ferrari : SchM and Rubens
Williams: Ralf and JPM )JPM not 100% confirmed) Mclaren : Kimi and DC Renault : Trulli and Alonso Jordan : Fisi and HHF Sauber: Heidfeld and Webber BAR: Villeneuve and Bunsen Jaguar: HHF and Webber Arrows: Bernoldi and Webber Toyota: Salo and HHF Minardi: Webber and Herta It is my understanding that these teams' drivers positions are final and contracts have already been signed for all teams. Valve 
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21 Aug 2002, 09:24 (Ref:362742)
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Re: This from friend of Dancing Machine
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21 Aug 2002, 09:30 (Ref:362747)
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Vee haf infented klonink here in Oz alrady
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21 Aug 2002, 09:57 (Ref:362767)
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My limited understanding:
Ferrari - Same McLaren - Same Williams - Same Renault - Trulli/Alonso Jordan - Fisichella/Sato BAR - JV/Button Sauber - Heidfeld/? (Most likely Massa, very impressive in Hungary) Jaguar - Webber/PDLR Arrows (or whatever they are called) - Bernoldi/? Minardi - ?/? Toyota - Salo/da Matta |
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22 Aug 2002, 07:02 (Ref:363438)
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My surmise:
F/Mc/Wil: same Renault: Trulli, Alonso Jordan: Fisichella, Sato/Irvine BAR: Panis, Button Sauber: Heidfeld, McNish/Verstappen Jaguar: PDL Rosa, Webber Toyota: Salo, HHF/Da Matta Minadi: Davidson, Russian kid Arrows: Massa, Bernodi |
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