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Old 17 Mar 2002, 07:22 (Ref:237081)   #1
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conspiracy?

I think so... how can they penalise JPM for that move... that just sux ...grrrr

I think it's safe to say that if it was the other way around, MS would not have been penalised.

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Old 17 Mar 2002, 07:25 (Ref:237084)   #2
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:05 (Ref:237093)   #3
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true, never got told what exactly was wrong with it
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:32 (Ref:237099)   #4
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The Colombian ... but was given a drive-through penalty for the collision.

"Why? Why?" he asked over the radio, and when told it was for the incident with Schumacher he replied: "This is bull****, I gave him room."
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:38 (Ref:237101)   #5
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That was a F***ing stupid decision by the stewards. But if the great god of F1 did it, nothing would have been done.

The whole thing stinks. It just shows how much F1 is ruled by Ferrari and TGF......
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:38 (Ref:237102)   #6
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hehe, JPM and MS are both gonna be in the press conference...this should be funny
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:51 (Ref:237116)   #7
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We haven't got the crumbs from bernies table yet,they'll show it late 2nite.I'll be VERY interested to see how this happened.
Oh by the way..who makes the decision?
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:55 (Ref:237118)   #8
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dont u get the race live RWC? i did
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:56 (Ref:237119)   #9
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and thats on ch9 not FOXTEL or nething
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 08:58 (Ref:237121)   #10
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Monotoya said it was a racing incident...so did Michael
Schumacher agreed the penalty for Montoya was harsh...
Not too many fireworks.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:04 (Ref:237131)   #11
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my word it was a conspiracy
have you ever seen a more lousy decision in your life??????
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:05 (Ref:237134)   #12
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Schumacher agreed the penalty for Montoya was harsh...
after the fact, it was the "perfect" thing for him to say.

harsh is not the word, it sucked, and Juan's stature continues to climb.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:07 (Ref:237140)   #13
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I can't understand it !!

It just makes the sport look bad I think - how can you take part in a sport where the rules are not clear fron the start!!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:08 (Ref:237142)   #14
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Nice words from TGF
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:15 (Ref:237160)   #15
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Unfair and unjustified, politics in action right there.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:17 (Ref:237164)   #16
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and for all the tgf lovers out there, i don't think this thread is actually anti-tgf, it's about how the FIA would seem to want tgf/ferrari to win!

although the move by tgf was dodgy imo
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:17 (Ref:237165)   #17
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Just to make it even more clearer to those who doubt... it wouldn't suprise me one bit if both the williams's are disqualified because of having slicks at the end.

Or maybe they'll save that one for another race
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:19 (Ref:237168)   #18
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Nice words from TGF
for TGF to actually say this, he must know he was at fault
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I'm calling this incident 'Sepangate'!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:20 (Ref:237171)   #20
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Just to make it even more clearer to those who doubt... it wouldn't suprise me one bit if both the williams's are disqualified because of having slicks at the end.

Or maybe they'll save that one for another race
i don't think they'll save it, i reckon there appealing against the tyres as we speak (type!)
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:23 (Ref:237177)   #21
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If he was at fault, I think he would have tried to avoid answering the question, saying something like, "It's not my job to decide, it must be very difficult for them etc. etc."

Let me see the in-car footage from TGF first...
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If he was at fault, I think he would have tried to avoid answering the question, saying something like, "It's not my job to decide, it must be very difficult for them etc. etc."

Let me see the in-car footage from TGF first...
Interesting then why he said to JPM (behind the sceen) it happened because he understeered - but in the press conference - no mention of this, just good old driver error !!

mmnn!!
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 09:42 (Ref:237232)   #23
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I think the reason JPM was penalised may have had more to do with them overeacting to the startline incident in the Australian GP (like JPM hinted at in the press conference) rather than any TGF bias.
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Old 17 Mar 2002, 11:05 (Ref:237344)   #24
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I always avoid the "FIA are biased" discussions, preferring to give them the benefit of the doubt, but today's decision was unbelievable, and may have far reaching consequences. Will other drivers now be afraid to challenge Mikey, in case they get penalised.

It's a sad day for the sport when they outlaw racing

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Old 17 Mar 2002, 11:18 (Ref:237357)   #25
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Michael Schumacher makes an utterly dangerous and bone-head move at the start which could have caused a massive accident, Juan Montoya is ahead of Schumacher in the corner at the point of their collision (this can be seen clearly from the onboard footage from Montoya's car) - and Montoya gets the penalty.

Unbelievable.

If there are anyone out there who after this still can't see that Ferrari are being blatantly favourised, they are clearly living on another planet.
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