Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 Jan 2004, 13:39 (Ref:826478)   #1
mansellmania
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 194
mansellmania should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
mp4-19 on fire

Nice rumour ive been reading, apparently the spanish press has some rather bad news for the mclaren fans as the mp4-19 was seen catching fire at testing.. just like the mp4-18 loved a smoke.

Seems the packaging of engine and internals is still not cured after more than a year design.

Further they had an intervieuw with flavio briatore who said he was ' not impressed ' by the speed of the new mclaren if it was only half a second faster than his Renault R23 with hugely underpowered wide-angle V10.
mansellmania is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 13:43 (Ref:826482)   #2
Mr V
Veteran
 
Mr V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
England
The city of bridges (one day!)
Posts: 13,211
Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!Mr V has a real shot at the championship!
Flavio's unimpressed, McLaren smokes, not the first time in history we've seen these 2 occurences.
Mr V is offline  
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 17:58 (Ref:826636)   #3
BootsOntheSide
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
England
Eastbourne, England
Posts: 13,000
BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Didn't mansellmania go into a very lengthy rant about how meaningless testing is just a week or two ago? And now he expects us to change our views when a rumour of one mechanical failure surfaces?
BootsOntheSide is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 18:07 (Ref:826642)   #4
darcym
Veteran
 
darcym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
Bath
Posts: 1,384
darcym should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
testing is really there to "test" a car be it setup, parts, layout, stress testing. Hence why its called testing. For all we know McLaren may have started the layout at the N'th degree and are slowly make (just for example) more room in the engine bay, and keep doing this until it works. Its always interesting to see what teams are up to and what they are capable of, however no-one really knows what teams are up to so testing is pretty much a black art to the causual observer.
darcym is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 22:43 (Ref:826820)   #5
DriverT
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
United Kingdom
Silverstone
Posts: 2,147
DriverT should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Flavio will certainly be impressed when they lap his cars at Melbourne...
DriverT is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 23:04 (Ref:826858)   #6
darcym
Veteran
 
darcym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location:
Bath
Posts: 1,384
darcym should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I'd be interested in seeing that.

Could this years Mclaren be a shot out of the blue like 98. The amazment in 98 when the Mclaren was just unstopable for the first half of the year made a great season with Ferrari battling back.
darcym is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 23:07 (Ref:826864)   #7
Armco Bender
Llama Assassin and Sheep Botherer
Veteran
 
Armco Bender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
New Zealand
International Sheep Ambassador
Posts: 4,212
Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!Armco Bender is going for a new world record!
I can see DC burning up the tracks with it this season,2004 will be his WDC year for sure.
Armco Bender is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 23:11 (Ref:826877)   #8
Spudgun
Race Official
Veteran
 
Spudgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
England
Reading, UK
Posts: 2,776
Spudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Armco Bender
I can see DC burning up the tracks with it this season,2004 will be his WDC year for sure.
It's a forgone conclusion.
Spudgun is offline  
__________________
Successfully crashing a probe into the moon is like saying you successfully swam the English Channel by having your corpse wash up on the beach.
Quote
Old 3 Jan 2004, 23:15 (Ref:826885)   #9
Wrex
Ten-Tenths Hall of Fame
Veteran
 
Wrex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Australia
Melbourne - Home of the Australian GP
Posts: 7,643
Wrex is going for a new lap record!Wrex is going for a new lap record!Wrex is going for a new lap record!Wrex is going for a new lap record!Wrex is going for a new lap record!Wrex is going for a new lap record!
Quote:
Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
Didn't mansellmania go into a very lengthy rant about how meaningless testing is just a week or two ago?
good call Boots

Quote:
Originally posted by mansellmania
testing means nothing.
and michelin needs 10000 laps before bridgestone even has to consider coming out of bed to try new wettyres.
Wrex is offline  
__________________
#Keepfightingmichael
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 00:09 (Ref:826968)   #10
RWC
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location:
Qld.-australia
Posts: 2,083
RWC should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yeah,it's just testing-they could be deliberately running it without radiators for all we know.

I can't see it being hugely reliable for at least the first few races though.Makes it a little more interesting for us.

Flabio's not impressed? Can anyone name a single time ever when we should be imressed with anything he says? lol
RWC is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 01:24 (Ref:827016)   #11
Pitstop
Veteran
 
Pitstop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
United Kingdom
Devon, UK
Posts: 936
Pitstop should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Spudgun
It's a forgone conclusion.
Honestly chum, I for one, will not be holding my breath, my advice is to 'be prepared'.

But then again, anything can happen in F1!

Last edited by Pitstop; 4 Jan 2004 at 01:26.
Pitstop is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 02:11 (Ref:827046)   #12
avsfan733
Veteran
 
avsfan733's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location:
Rochester
Posts: 1,618
avsfan733 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by Armco Bender
I can see DC burning up the tracks with it this season,2004 will be his WDC year for sure.
Quick Armco! patent that statment before Mclaren allows DC to speak publicly
avsfan733 is offline  
__________________
I refuse to let fact get in the way of my opinion
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 04:46 (Ref:827113)   #13
BARrouette
Racer
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
out of this world
Posts: 380
BARrouette should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
It is shure DC last chance to win the WDC but kimi is has shown that he is faster than him.But i shure see a WDC at Mclaren and i hope to see DC win that.
BARrouette is offline  
__________________
Beep Beep!!!
IF you look in Your mirror it's allready too late , i just passed you...
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 18:18 (Ref:827521)   #14
mansellmania
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 194
mansellmania should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
Didn't mansellmania go into a very lengthy rant about how meaningless testing is just a week or two ago? And now he expects us to change our views when a rumour of one mechanical failure surfaces?
But that was on the times rather than the events like cars on fire or even crashing.
That stuff i do find very interesting and telling.

Has anyone seen a picture yet somewhere of that mp4-19 on fire?
mansellmania is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 18:21 (Ref:827528)   #15
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 44,196
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Yes I can get some frame posters, want one?

EDIT: Stupid typo.

Last edited by Adam43; 4 Jan 2004 at 18:41.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Brum brum
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 18:37 (Ref:827546)   #16
Glen
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,598
Glen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGlen should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Re: mp4-19 on fire

Quote:
Originally posted by mansellmania
Further they had an intervieuw with flavio briatore who said he was ' not impressed ' by the speed of the new mclaren if it was only half a second faster than his Renault R23 with hugely underpowered wide-angle V10.
First of all, he would say that wouldn't he?

Also though - isn't this Valencia we're talking about? I think it is... in which case the lap is very short, the circuit is exceptionally twisty, and the 2003 Renault is probably one of the better cars around there. Since they are going away from the very low wide-angle engine I wouldn't be surprised if the 2004 Renault is no quicker at all at that circuit. I think half a second is a significant margin on that circuit. Not that testing times mean anything, eh?

Last edited by Glen; 4 Jan 2004 at 18:38.
Glen is offline  
Quote
Old 4 Jan 2004, 18:37 (Ref:827547)   #17
mansellmania
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 194
mansellmania should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by AdamAshmore
Yes I can get some frame posters, what one?
heh
mansellmania is offline  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LPG Fire mark_l Marshals Forum 22 16 Mar 2004 21:21
F1 is on fire !!! Speed Formula One 25 29 Jul 2003 07:58
Car on Fire! Snapper Baz Marshals Forum 84 19 May 2003 22:42
fire fire fire Tiptop Racers Forum 7 15 Apr 2003 09:01


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.