ILMC 2011 Discussion

HORNDAWG · 16 Sep 2010, 17:27 (Ref:2760465)

Well I guess with teams and mfgs. starting to declare their participation, or want of doing, it is time to open this.

L.P.

Canada ALMS fan · 16 Sep 2010, 19:11 (Ref:2760531)

So, thus far we have in P1 possibly:
Audi x 2
Peugeot x 2
Aston x 2? (1 at Sebring)
Oreca Peugeot x 1?

**joeb** · 16 Sep 2010, 19:54 (Ref:2760559)

Was Oak interested? or Drayson?

JAG · 16 Sep 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2760598)

Oak x2 P1

Drayson x1 (possibly) x2 P1

Of the rest I would think Rebellion and Strakka are possibles.

I think Highcroft maybe interested as they have Le Mans overall win ambitions.

The Badger · 16 Sep 2010, 21:13 (Ref:2760605)

Any GT teams ?

NaBUru38 · 16 Sep 2010, 23:42 (Ref:2760649)

The American rounds of the Le Mans are:

March 19 - Sebring
October 1 - Road Atlanta

Now the question is where will Silverstone fit, because the ALMS has race on August 21, September 3 and September 17.

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2010, 00:18 (Ref:2760659)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

The American rounds of the Le Mans are:

March 19 - Sebring
October 1 - Road Atlanta

Now the question is where will Silverstone fit, because the ALMS has race on August 21, September 3 and September 17.

Is that not a question for the combined series schedule?

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124445

L.P.

rich07 · 17 Sep 2010, 04:13 (Ref:2760692)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Any GT teams ?

Usual suspects from Ferrari and Porsche?

LeMans.pt · 17 Sep 2010, 11:29 (Ref:2760850)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

Usual suspects from Ferrari and Porsche?

I think that we wont see any GT2 team making a full season ILMC. Porsche has teams on both sides of the atlantic and i don't believe that Felbermayr will go to Seabring and Petit Le Mans or Risi coming to Silverstone or Spa for exemple. Same goes to Ferrari and BMW.

Frankly, they should had kept things simple in the beginning and kept the championship limited do LMP1 class. For most of the average fan (well... for all of them), it will be very difficult to understand why the teams don't make a full season entry, and the average fans is the one who will decide if this championship is going to be a success, or not.

Drivers, Team and Constructors titles for LMP1, and only Constructors titles for the rest, but, separating chassis from engines. Frankly, the average fan don't understand why the constructor title goes to a specific chassis/engine package. Chassis makers should be awarded for having a car that wins with multiple engines, and engines makers should be awarded for making an engine that wins with different chassis.

Concerning the team title, ALMS is doing a wonderful job. Only full season entries can fight for championships, and only the best result counts to the Teams Championship. I understand that a car having more than 1 driver is a "Team", but once again, the average fan doesn't...

johntt · 17 Sep 2010, 11:34 (Ref:2760853)

Appaprently the rule is that if you want to do the ILMC, you have to commit to do all seven rounds

NaBUru38 · 17 Sep 2010, 13:30 (Ref:2760895)

Sorry, Horndawg, I had forgotten about that thread.

The Badger · 17 Sep 2010, 14:24 (Ref:2760905)

Bergmeister-Long will do Zuhai in the works Hybrid .

carsten66 · 17 Sep 2010, 17:32 (Ref:2760972)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

I think that we wont see any GT2 team making a full season ILMC. Porsche has teams on both sides of the atlantic and i don't believe that Felbermayr will go to Seabring and Petit Le Mans or Risi coming to Silverstone or Spa for exemple. Same goes to Ferrari and BMW....

Good point... but except for Jaguar, Aston Martin and Spyker (is Spyker selling cars in the US?)...

Victor_RO · 17 Sep 2010, 17:34 (Ref:2760973)

Are Corvette planning to do the ILMC though?

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2010, 17:39 (Ref:2760977)

Not known yet. Corvette Racing usually plays things pretty close to the chest.

L.P.

JAG · 17 Sep 2010, 19:37 (Ref:2761004)

I heard there was going to be a teams championship in order to encourage GT teams to run a full season.

The359 · 17 Sep 2010, 19:42 (Ref:2761007)

There already is a Team Cup, in all 4 categories. There was however discussion of adding a Drivers Cup, something which is not in place in 2010.

LeMans.pt · 17 Sep 2010, 19:47 (Ref:2761008)

Quote:

Originally Posted by johntt

Appaprently the rule is that if you want to do the ILMC, you have to commit to do all seven rounds

And thats why it doesn't make any sense a Team Championship! I don't see Porsche supporting Felbermayr and/or Flying Lizard, Ferrari supporting Risi and/or AF Corse, BMW supporting Schnitzer and/or Rahal, for a full ILMC season. We probably are the going to see something like Porsche or Ferrari winning the Manufactures Title, and Jaguar RSR winning the Teams Title with 5th, 6th and 7th place finishes...

Keep it simple and understandable for the average fan, or people will still find this sport to damn incomprehensible, and therefore, to hard to follow. It is already hard to sell because the races are longgggggggggggg... why make it impossible?

LeMans.pt · 17 Sep 2010, 19:54 (Ref:2761013)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

I heard there was going to be a teams championship in order to encourage GT teams to run a full season.

There are Teams Titles in all classes, and Manufactures Titles in LMP1 and GT2. Which GT2 team you see with a budget for 7 long courses around the World?

JAG · 17 Sep 2010, 20:28 (Ref:2761016)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

There are Teams Titles in all classes, and Manufactures Titles in LMP1 and GT2. Which GT2 team you see with a budget for 7 long courses around the World?

The proposal is a modification to one of the above to encourage a season long entry.

As for budgets teams would need to fork out for four extra events not seven.

All teams will already be going to Le Mans and competing at either Spa/Silverstone or Sebring/PLM.

There's no doubt an ILMC entry is easier for European teams to fit around their smaller LMS schedule, or replace it entirely, than their US counterparts.

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2010, 21:09 (Ref:2761033)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

The proposal is a modification to one of the above to encourage a season long entry.

As for budgets teams would need to fork out for four extra events not seven.

All teams will already be going to Le Mans and competing at either Spa/Silverstone or Sebring/PLM.

There's no doubt an ILMC entry is easier for European teams to fit around their smaller LMS schedule, or replace it entirely, than their US counterparts.

Especially depending on logistical compensation/allowance by the ACO for the teams in the ILMC series.

L.P.

NaBUru38 · 18 Sep 2010, 13:03 (Ref:2761202)

I disagree with a drivers championship. Le Mans is a team sport, not an individual sport.

How about this idea for the teams championship: only the best two results in Europe and the best two in North America are taken. This would allow teams to fight for the championship without having to race everywhere, but still demanding to visit the three continents.

JAG · 18 Sep 2010, 14:19 (Ref:2761228)

The media latch onto driver rivalries so it's another angle to promote the series.

The mainstream Silverstone coverage was dominated by interviews with the likes of Davidson and Mansell, whatsmore the drivers want a title so I can't see any downside.

NaBUru38 · 19 Sep 2010, 03:28 (Ref:2761407)

It downgrades the other titles.

HORNDAWG · 19 Sep 2010, 03:54 (Ref:2761412)

No it does not.

L.P.

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