Fire Breathing Monsters!

Garrett · 5 Dec 2005, 17:12 (Ref:1477517)

I was wondering which Le Mans/ALMS/LMS race cars had the largest backfiring flame from any era.

A few examples off the top of my head that I can remember are the BMW M3 GTR (huge flames from those beauties), the Ferrari 333sp, Toyota GT1, Lamborghini GT1, 2000 Cadillac LMP900, Maser MC12 GT1, and the RfH Dome S101.

What other fire breathing monsters do you remember???

jhansen · 5 Dec 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1477522)

http://www.sportscarpros.com/focal-p...ming-groo.html

Garrett · 5 Dec 2005, 17:33 (Ref:1477531)

Way cool jhansen! Photos of LM cars breathing flames always make for the best pictures. Every year I attend to the Petit Le Mans I try to get a few myself, though it can be hard to get a good shot. When you do get a good shot of some flame action, it always will be a beautiful photo!!!

More suggestions!

vs346 · 5 Dec 2005, 18:10 (Ref:1477561)

The 2003 Pescarolos were fire breathing, especially through the Ford Chicanes.

TheNewBob · 5 Dec 2005, 19:11 (Ref:1477611)

Remember seeing a few nice flames from the back of the Ultima racing in the British GT championship this year. not a car at Le Mans but still, same kinda thing...

Plus I can't remember which car exactly but one of the old Porsches in the CER race that supported the LMES at Silverstone kept spitting out a good few flames. Spent ages, unsuccessfully, trying to grab a picture of that in friday practice.

Garrett · 5 Dec 2005, 20:36 (Ref:1477690)

McLaren F1 GTRs!

cmk · 5 Dec 2005, 20:53 (Ref:1477707)

Specifically the M3 GTRs at the Spa 24 when Thiessen had them dumping more raw fuel out the exhaust (reportedly) to enhance photo ops and thus press, much to the (again, reported) chagrin of Charlie Lamm, who obviously wanted maximum fuel efficiency.

They were always spectacular as you've noted, but check them at this specific race for the full effect.

ccharlie6 · 5 Dec 2005, 21:58 (Ref:1477760)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewBob

Plus I can't remember which car exactly but one of the old Porsches in the CER race that supported the LMES at Silverstone kept spitting out a good few flames. Spent ages, unsuccessfully, trying to grab a picture of that in friday practice.

Hi was it maybe this porsche??
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...flameporka.jpg

and if you want big flames i think that the LMES spec team LNT tvr's made the biggest flames without a doubt at the lmes, the BMW GTR would be hard pushed to beat some of the efforts ive seen out of those tiv exhaust pipes!

Hi there ten tenths....... i'm a first time poster long time reader (more than 2 years now!!!)

**skycafe** · 5 Dec 2005, 23:46 (Ref:1477863)

Welcome ccharlie6!

I go for the Porsche 935's, not only with the big gout of flame but also the glowing turbo housings hanging out in the breeze out back.

Next, will never forget the Lancia Beta MonteCarlo's, which would dump a little flame out of the wastegate pipe on overrun. The exhaust was mounted high and in the center of the rear, and the wastegate pipe was probably only as big around as your thumb, but it popped out this splendid little flame with a corresponding poof or bang.

robert

924nut · 5 Dec 2005, 23:50 (Ref:1477866)

My first thoughts were the Porsche 935 but then i remembered marshalling at the German group 5 races at Donington way back and the Zackspeed Capris and Escorts had a massive tail of fire as they braked for the old Hairpin - now they were monsters

vwpilot · 6 Dec 2005, 03:59 (Ref:1477964)

The Jim Gainer car did pretty good this year.

Nordic · 6 Dec 2005, 08:51 (Ref:1478057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by skycafe

Welcome ccharlie6!

I go for the Porsche 935's, not only with the big gout of flame but also the glowing turbo housings hanging out in the breeze out back.

Next, will never forget the Lancia Beta MonteCarlo's, which would dump a little flame out of the wastegate pipe on overrun. The exhaust was mounted high and in the center of the rear, and the wastegate pipe was probably only as big around as your thumb, but it popped out this splendid little flame with a corresponding poof or bang.

robert

Agreed, 935's and the Lancia montecarlos did make a splended sight, as indeeded did any group 5 car.

But the best i ever saw was the Finotta/Facetti Ferrari 308t/c that raced in 81. Massive flame whenever it backed of.

Happy Snapper · 6 Dec 2005, 09:06 (Ref:1478074)

http://www.gtphotosport.com/Spalmes05/image012.html

now thats a flame....

or
http://www.gtphotosport.com/spa24_2004/dsc_7046.html

isynge · 6 Dec 2005, 09:57 (Ref:1478103)

Going back a bit (but as people are citing the 935 etc probably allowable...) I remember seeing a fantastic photo in one of Grand Prix International's sportscar issues of the Richard Cleare Kremer CK-5 with virtually more flame than car. Particularly memorable as they gave it one of their double page spreads despite it being a chopped photo (even drawing attention to it) simply because the amount of fire etc was so spectacular. Almost worth the trip out to the garage to go and find it...

MikeHoyer · 6 Dec 2005, 12:51 (Ref:1478194)

One of my favourites...

http://www.mdh-photography.co.uk/Gal...s/photo68.html

Splendid Cat · 6 Dec 2005, 12:51 (Ref:1478196)

Yes - got that one of the CK5. Its the Le Mans 83 mag' IIRC. And I agree - the most dragon-esque (is that a word?!) sportscar ever!

Nordic · 6 Dec 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1478374)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordic

Agreed, 935's and the Lancia montecarlos did make a splended sight, as indeeded did any group 5 car.

But the best i ever saw was the Finotta/Facetti Ferrari 308t/c that raced in 81. Massive flame whenever it backed of.

I have found a photo I took of the 308, the picture is not one of my best, but i think you get the idea!
Finotta/Facetti Ferrari 308t/c

i would love to see the CK5 pictue if one of you can find it.

btw the best turbo flame out pictue I have ever seen is one of Stefan Johannson's F1 Ferrari taken at i think monaco.

EliseGT1 · 6 Dec 2005, 20:39 (Ref:1478496)

Another TVR, this one shot at this year's Nurburgring 1000kms.

Not that big, but it was almost constantly on fire...

http://www.planetlemans.com/index.ph...view_photo.php

racing_line · 8 Dec 2005, 19:26 (Ref:1479941)

Daytona tests '05 with the Goldin Brothers RX8.

ccharlie6 · 8 Dec 2005, 19:31 (Ref:1479947)

ah rotaries!!! forgot about those wonderful things. those things just love fire and noise i think i'm going to rename them dragon engines or something

tblincoe · 8 Dec 2005, 19:52 (Ref:1479959)

The MC12 has a pretty amazing backfire... it was by far the most beautiful car at night during this year's 12 Hours. All four rotors were bright red under braking, the V12 was just beautiful to listen to, and the backfire would light up everything within 100 feet behind the car.

TheNewBob · 22 Dec 2005, 12:53 (Ref:1488674)

I found a picture of the Ultima GTR giving off just a small pleasant little flame... http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-07-18-047.jpg

tux · 12 Jan 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1499893)

just wondering do the porsche 996 rsr and the ferrari 550 marenello give off flames?

TheNewBob · 16 Jan 2006, 01:41 (Ref:1502039)

Not sure too much about the 996 and 550 - I'd say yes but not big ones. I've found quite a nice one - the '03 Jag XK8 from British GT...

http://www.studio21.co.uk/bgt/gt03/khr4/khr34_1626p.htm

tux · 16 Jan 2006, 02:40 (Ref:1502050)

thats huge

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