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Old 10 Oct 2003, 15:58 (Ref:746444)   #1
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Montoya CAN still win the 2003 WDC

This is crazy I know but it just came to me whilst sitting reading Autosport so I thought I'd put it on here and see what reaction it got.

To say that this is highly unlikely is the biggest understatement since Noah said "Looks Like Rain" but here goes

The Precident was set in the infamous 1997 season imagine Micheal is in the lead perhaps he has some mechanical failure and knows he can't finish the race. He is being overtaken by Kimi for the lead he panics and elects to take him out (the only way he can guarantee Kimi doesn't win)

The FIA take the same action they did in 1997 by stripping Micheal of his position in the championship. However they cannot award points to Kimi just because he was taken out as he may not have finished the race anyway. However Juan Pablo is only one point behind Kimi so in such circumstances Montoya only needs to finish in the points to be crowned WDC.

The Stuff of fantasy I accept but it gives us something to think about between now and the small hours of Sunday Morning. (Middle of the afternoon if you live that side of the planet)
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:03 (Ref:746449)   #2
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Oh, it could happen. But probably Montoya would have been awarded a drive-through, just in case...
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:04 (Ref:746451)   #3
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Highly Highly Highly Highly Highly Highly ...... optamistic!! but strange things happen but after 97 i dont think MS is that foolish!
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:06 (Ref:746452)   #4
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That said, would the FIA take Schumacher's championship?
It was very easy for the FIA to strip Schumacher of all his points once it was clear he was not the champion, in 1997...
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:11 (Ref:746458)   #5
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Jordi you are a cynic....

Like your style

Ralf Fan I tend to agree, he wouldn't be that daft twice

and besides for all the things I've said about him over the years I just can't see Micheal tainting what is by any standards a mighty impressive record in the later stages of his Career
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:30 (Ref:746480)   #6
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Man, you've got to wonder what would they have done if Schumacher had got away with that...
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:39 (Ref:746489)   #7
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Never going to happen! If enough drviers cheat bad enough, or enough cars are found to be illegal and the teams cheating and lots get disqualified then DC can still win.

I like the theory though, funny!

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That said, would the FIA take Schumacher's championship?
It was very easy for the FIA to strip Schumacher of all his points once it was clear he was not the champion, in 1997...
I'm really courious what would have the disscussion about that look like here if this existed back then.
Just for the record - I think that was the only punishment I have ever heared of that had absolutely no affect on anything, and it was actuall reason most people startes talking about TGF's&Ferrari's "special treatment" at FIA.


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Man, you've got to wonder what would they have done if Schumacher had got away with that...
I have enourmous itch to answer this too, but I don't want to be the one accused of starting flaim bating and/or driver bashing.
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:49 (Ref:746498)   #9
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what a great theory !...love it !
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:54 (Ref:746499)   #10
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Interesting theory, if a little unlikely... but it would be interesting.
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:55 (Ref:746500)   #11
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Sheese boys, that desperate huh?

Once again I have to ask the question: why the do you watch Formula 1 anyway?
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 16:58 (Ref:746509)   #12
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Sheese boys, that desperate huh?

Once again I have to ask the question: why the do you watch Formula 1 anyway?
When you think about there is no good reason!
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Sheese boys, that desperate huh?

..hehehhe...something like that .....does it really show that much .

Red , do you reckon your man will retire from racng tomorrow when he becomes a 6 time WDC and the most winning of titles ever in the sport..?

Your right ..i am getting desperate !
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 17:00 (Ref:746514)   #14
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There's gotta be a reason. But no, judging by various opinions from the public, racing and/or racing technology is not one of them.
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I get the impression that this thread is just for a bit of fun rather than deadly serious.

It does remind me of the BTCC, because of negative points (only manufacturers this year, I think) for replacing engines some championships couldn't be confirmed for a while! It would actually have been a little safer if they didn't even turn up to race! he he.
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 17:04 (Ref:746521)   #16
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Re: Montoya CAN still win the 2003 WDC

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This is crazy I know but it just came to me whilst sitting reading Autosport so I thought I'd put it on here and see what reaction it got.

To say that this is highly unlikely is the biggest understatement since Noah said "Looks Like Rain" but here goes

The Precident was set in the infamous 1997 season imagine Micheal is in the lead perhaps he has some mechanical failure and knows he can't finish the race. He is being overtaken by Kimi for the lead he panics and elects to take him out (the only way he can guarantee Kimi doesn't win)

The FIA take the same action they did in 1997 by stripping Micheal of his position in the championship. However they cannot award points to Kimi just because he was taken out as he may not have finished the race anyway. However Juan Pablo is only one point behind Kimi so in such circumstances Montoya only needs to finish in the points to be crowned WDC.

The Stuff of fantasy I accept but it gives us something to think about between now and the small hours of Sunday Morning. (Middle of the afternoon if you live that side of the planet)
What a brilliant hypothesis...

The only question is: why Montoya???

If your theory depends on the top two not finishing/retiring/being eliminated from the championship, why stop there? I propose dan extension of your theory:

"KIESA CAN STILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP"

Of course! MS hits Kimi who retaliates, and Montoya realises that they will both be eliminated from the championship (because he knows what happened in 97), then Ralf panics (because this is a family thing) and hits him who retaliates...

...and Kiesa becomes the champion.

I'm sorry, this is bull****, but no more than the original post.
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Sato san, when someone urges for retirement of the winner, because others "have the right to win" (or "because it's boring to see same guy win") then we know we have a problem. When someone (and that happened more that once in this forum, I've seen this theory here before) invents such things then we know that the problem is critical.
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hehehehe........yer ...your right there Red !
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so then according to the theory I could still be the CHAMP!!! all i need is SATO san to move out so i can take his BAR seat for SUNDAY, and then hope for the best!!
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Old 10 Oct 2003, 17:39 (Ref:746553)   #21
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Thanks Adam for pointing out it was just a bit of fun Yes as I tried to make obvious at the beginning I don't think for a second it will happen and if it did I don't see how much satifaction you could get from being crowned WDC in court and with all the appeals that would ensue we wouldn't find out who won the 2003 WDC until about 2050 anyway

One pointless point though the reason I stopped at Montoya is MS may see a potential advantage to taking Kimi out Micheal disqualified Kimi no points what possible advantage could Montoya hope to gain from taking anyone out to improve his own chances

think about it

on second thoughts don't it was a stupid Idea in the first place

However I'm impressed with the response Have fun
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There's gotta be a reason. But no, judging by various opinions from the public, racing and/or racing technology is not one of them.
Hi-tech blows, and there's better racing on ovals anyway.
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Ok, I agree, you do have a point. Your point is wrong, but it is a point.

But not that I asked, my question was (to you, in particular) why do you watch this hi-tech-sucks and non-oval F1? And if you don't, what exactly was the reason that made you to visit this forum?
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I haven't watched a race since Monza this year. And this is good place to hassle the one-eyed Ferrari fans.
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I haven't watched a race since Monza this year. And this is good place to hassle the one-eyed Ferrari fans.
Yeah, the other eye is on that other tyre company
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